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Old Oct 31, 2004 | 11:58 PM
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I am looking for my next major mod which will either be heads or a supercharger. I have always loved S/C because of the sound they make and the power they can put out. This is for a street only car that rarely sees the track.

I dont really want to buy a S/C kit because they are awfully expensive and seem overpriced. I would like to buy just the compressor and do the work from there because I think it would be a lot of fun. I have no shortage of tools, expirience, and time.

I am thinking just a simple kit, no intercooler, making 450-520rwhp. I would use rubber piping and metal mandrel bends where ever I could get them in. I would probably mount it where the Procharger D1-SC is, and use a Procharger compressor or whatever I can find, or maybe remove my A/C compresson and mount it there. What else would I need? Do I need to upgrade the fueling system. Do I need some sort of boost controller? How would I go about getting it connected to the crank pulley? Can I just route it in with the main belt?

I will have so many more question as you guys answer these. Thanks a lot!
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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Yes, you will most definitely need to upgrade your fuel system to make 520 rwhp. I admire your DIY spirit, but, I think you are tremendously underestimating how much R&D has gone into the various SC kits on the market.. It takes a lot more than a head-unit, a few pulleys, and a tensioner to do it right..

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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:20 AM
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Hmm... I just found some pricing on Vortech and it looks like heads for me.

Just how much power can I go to on the stock fueling system? I think I am underestimating also. I always loved to do things myself, thought I'd might give this a try but don't want to mess around with the fueling system.
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Old Nov 1, 2004 | 12:26 PM
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When you mean stock fueling system, you mean stock injectors and stock fuel pump? I'd say 420rwhp. I would not even bother doing all that work if you were not going to upgrade the fuel system.
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Would an upgraded fuel sysetm be simply injectors and a new pump? Any suggestions on what to get so I can take a look see. Thanks.
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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:40 AM
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you will need at least injectors and a pump. Personally for FI i include a return line, and a front mount regulator (boost referenced) as a requirement.

If you want to do a cheap supercharger setup, find a used P1sc procharger, a aluminum ATI bracket, the 6 rib add on pulleys, a OBX intercooler, and fuel system.

you can find the first 3 used easily, as people upgrade to the D1sc, the steel bracket, and then the SDCE 8 rib spring loaded tensioner.

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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:52 AM
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The piping and the front mount are definitely able to be fabricated to do what you need them to do. But I would go with the bracket system already out there. pully alignment is nothing to mess around with. No need to reinvent the wheel. The steel J bracket only costs $100. Personally i would start off with the SD Concepts 6 or 8 rib spring tensioner system, a used head unit, and fab up the rest.

I don't see you going over 430rwhp without an intercooler or alky/meth injection. And you'll need 42# injectors and a walbro 340GSS(or equivalent) inline or intank fuel pump. I would not worry about upgrading the fuel lines and/or reg till you're ready to push the boost up higher than 6-7psi. Besides less cost, it's one other thing you have to deal with at the time of install. For me the fuel upgrades were ten times more work than the S/C install.

Always make sure you have a safe tune.

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Old Nov 2, 2004 | 08:18 PM
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Thanks for the info. Definitly looks like I will be getting heads. Oh well.
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