Ive been looking at the hot parts for turbo setups and notice a wide price range. Is there a reason for this? Is there any things that make one companies setup "better" per say than anothers?

 

Yes, 321 stainless vs 304, or mild steel, big price difference there, mandrel vs log headers are also a big price difference (It takes about 16-20 bends to make a set of headers, bends range from $15-$30 for 1 3/4).

There are other things too, such as routing around factory equipment, will make it more expensive, I'm sure the lost goes on.

 

Whats the difference between 321 and 304 stainless? I assume that the mandrel headers are better than the log going on a 700 rwhp setup? Whats the good and bad between the two?

Any of the hot part kits keep the A/C?

I know these may have been asked before, but FI is a whole new world to me

 

I think my turbo headers will keep AC, but its off the car anyway, they are up pretty high and the AC is on the bottom pass side.

Mandrel headers are definantly better flowing than logs or manifolds, I think someone dyno'd them and got 70WHP difference and they were around 650-750 range?

You will have to research each kit by itself to see what the best route for keeping AC is, STS will keep everything, at the cost of about 1 cubic foot extra of air space between the turbo and the intercooler or throttle body (Also about the same CF in exhaust volume)

 

Read about all the materials at www.burnsstainless.com

 

As other people have said, material (321 vs. 304 vs. mild), style (log vs. seperate primaries) and quality of details (type of collector used, thickness of flange etc) are the biggest factors in the cost of the header to produce. That being said, there is not necessarily a direct correlation between what a company charges us, and what it costs them to make it :-). Here is where I stop following a lot of the logic that people who talk about how expensive LS1 kits have to be because of how tough it is to fit the turbo in the car. That may be the case, but at the end of the day they are simply welding X number of bends between a flange and a collector on a jig. Regardless, that being said... looking at the different kits out there, we finally have proper kits coming out.. by proper I mean a tubular style manifold. Each has their compromises. If you look at the TTI kit, you have to ditch AC, and you have one header run below the K-member. If you are willing to deal with those two issues, you have a sweet kit, as it is nicely built and does not have any "shortcuts" made that cost power (crappy collectors, log manifolds etc.) The PTK kit is nicely made with seperate primaries and everything as well... but you don't have to lose AC, and there are no pipes run below the K-member. Off the shelf it is mild, but they have an option for stainless.... as a stainless header, I don't know how the price compares to TTI. The only real downside of the PTK compared to the TTI (besides the standard material) is that you can't run as big of a downpipe as you can on the TTI setup (3.5" with a BMR K-member). One of the least expensive kits out there now is the Phamspeed one... it is stainless, and you keep your AC.... but you have pipes run below the K-member. There is also the Stainless works setup which is cheaper... and it should be since it is a Log. At least its stainless. Other than those, not sure which ones you are looking at, but I think the difference in price is more due to outside factors... namely that the LS1 F-body is a limited market, and how much money do they need to recoup to make the investment in R&D Worthwhile. Phamspeed being a young startup company with limited overhead can produce the product cheaper. TTI and PTK both spent a lot of time figuring out the kits, and you are not just paying for the time and material of the header... but the development time. They need to cover their overhead. Stainlessworks.... well... they make a nice product. It isn't the best, and they didn't develop it... but they are a great company, and their setup will work well for most.

 

That was perfect!

I was looking at the PTK hot parts actually. I looked at the TTI kit and while its nice, I didnt like the $8k tag it had Even the parts were still $5k+

Thanks guys for the help. Is there any pics of the PTK kit out yet? I didnt find any and seen a thread where someone said that there are not yet.

All these turbo kits for the Mustangs and they leave us hanging

 

edit: figured I'd make it easier for you:

http://forcedinductions.com/images/PTKLS1/

http://www.forcedinductions.com/GMkits3.htm

 

might wanna check these guys out, their not ahuge company, but they have a nice product
https://ls1tech.com/forums/removed-locked-thread-graveyard/250723-phamspeed-turbo-kits-introductory-special-ls1-tech-members-pictures-info-inside.html

 

Phamspeed is having a special for LS1tech members right now on exhaust manifolds. Prices for hot parts (2 manifolds and up-pipe to turbo) are $1675. If you want just the headers, they are $850. These parts are all in 304 stainless. The headers are in 14ga and the up-pipes are in 16ga. These prices are good to the end of Febuary.

True we are a small company. But as a small company, we provide professional results and customer service. The next couple of months we'll be making lots of kits and posting pictures as we go. If you're seriously thinking about getting a set of good quality turbo hot parts, keep us in mind.

 

Lets get some damn LT1 kits!

 

Your kit looks awesome except for one thing I dont know if many (myself included) can deal with.... HERE Thats awfully low to the ground I will be lowered so I dont know if I can do this

I dont know why GM didnt give us more dame room in the engine bay

 

They did! I have 2 T70's stuffed in there, and still have enough room to stash a dead body.

 

Pics? Please

 

Don't have a digital camera, but picture a engine bay with all accessories stripped except alternator and water pump, with forward facing headers, turbos sit where the batter went on pass side and fuse box area for drivers side.

 

I would like to see that as well?

 

Agreed!

I actually fit a pair of HX60 Holsets in my engine bay during the mockup phases. Those things are ENORMOUS!!

 

This is actually on a TA that has been lowered 2" so it isn't that bad. They lowest point is also between the two front wheels so you won't have any problems with speedbumps

About the twin T70's, it is more than possible. If customers were willing to strip there engine bay, I could make a twin turbo kit like you wouldn't believe. Not many people are willing to do that though so that's whay we haven't

 

I know Rick Head's twin 80s are my heros.

 

Tell me about it.