3bar Initial Tune Results - HP TUNERS - T76 Speed Inc
01-11-2005, 12:52 PM
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INTMD8 - Tuning question with the 3 bar map setup. How do you get the VE values for low map(in boost) and high rpm?
example:
Say you want to run 20 psi at the track and 10psi on the street. If the wastegate holds 20psi and you get full boost by say 4000rpm then you wouldn't have data for 10psi at 6000rpm. Do you just turn the boost up a little at a time until you've built the table up to your max boost?
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example:
Say you want to run 20 psi at the track and 10psi on the street. If the wastegate holds 20psi and you get full boost by say 4000rpm then you wouldn't have data for 10psi at 6000rpm. Do you just turn the boost up a little at a time until you've built the table up to your max boost?
Thanks
01-14-2005, 06:35 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8NSS
INTMD8 - Tuning question with the 3 bar map setup. How do you get the VE values for low map(in boost) and high rpm?
example:
Say you want to run 20 psi at the track and 10psi on the street. If the wastegate holds 20psi and you get full boost by say 4000rpm then you wouldn't have data for 10psi at 6000rpm. Do you just turn the boost up a little at a time until you've built the table up to your max boost?
Thanks
example:
Say you want to run 20 psi at the track and 10psi on the street. If the wastegate holds 20psi and you get full boost by say 4000rpm then you wouldn't have data for 10psi at 6000rpm. Do you just turn the boost up a little at a time until you've built the table up to your max boost?
Thanks
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01-14-2005, 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by XLR8NSS
Hey, that's a good question. I was kinda wondering the same thing.
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LOL, sorry about that.
To answer your question, yes, you would turn the boost up progressively until you built the entire VE table.
Once you've got it tuned at base boost, you can scale up the rest of the table for higher boost, than test at a higher level.
Generally the ve table will follow the same trend vs RPM, but increase with manifold pressure.
01-14-2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
LOL, sorry about that.
To answer your question, yes, you would turn the boost up progressively until you built the entire VE table.
Once you've got it tuned at base boost, you can scale up the rest of the table for higher boost, than test at a higher level.
Generally the ve table will follow the same trend vs RPM, but increase with manifold pressure.
To answer your question, yes, you would turn the boost up progressively until you built the entire VE table.
Once you've got it tuned at base boost, you can scale up the rest of the table for higher boost, than test at a higher level.
Generally the ve table will follow the same trend vs RPM, but increase with manifold pressure.
Thanks for the reply.
01-17-2005, 07:34 PM
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Wow, I have not had this much excitement from reading a thread in quite some time. The future is looking bright, but then again the here and now looks to require shades too.
MAF for part throttle/around town, 2 bar or 3 bar to augment that...don't think I could ask for much more.
MAF for part throttle/around town, 2 bar or 3 bar to augment that...don't think I could ask for much more.
03-07-2005, 08:24 PM
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Originally Posted by KissMySSo1
I want to make 850ish rwhp On what ever gas it takes. How can i get that 3 bar setup? What are you guys doing for injector and pump at that power level?
We are using mototron 60's at 70psi base pressure and dual walbro 340's.
The 60s made it to 840rwhp at 60psi base, but they were maxed out.
03-07-2005, 08:25 PM
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Originally Posted by MECHAM
any of the LS1 Speed Inc tuners visiting CO in the next few months?
Really though, if you had your own 3 bar setup, I could send you a file that would be very close. (you would just have to fine tune it)
03-07-2005, 08:29 PM
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Intmd8, that would be cool, but us poor 98 guys are still waiting for HPtuners to release the 2-3 bar stuff. I'm dying to buy it
It would really help me get the car squared away. Can you get us a tenative date on when they will release it for us 98 step children.
J
It would really help me get the car squared away. Can you get us a tenative date on when they will release it for us 98 step children.J
03-07-2005, 08:45 PM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Intmd8, that would be cool, but us poor 98 guys are still waiting for HPtuners to release the 2-3 bar stuff. I'm dying to buy it It would really help me get the car squared away. Can you get us a tenative date on when they will release it for us 98 step children.
J
It would really help me get the car squared away. Can you get us a tenative date on when they will release it for us 98 step children.J
Im with stupid ^
i would buy HP Tuners...just for this reason.
03-08-2005, 05:37 AM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Intmd8, that would be cool, but us poor 98 guys are still waiting for HPtuners to release the 2-3 bar stuff. I'm dying to buy it It would really help me get the car squared away. Can you get us a tenative date on when they will release it for us 98 step children.
J
It would really help me get the car squared away. Can you get us a tenative date on when they will release it for us 98 step children.J
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03-08-2005, 07:16 AM
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What good is that going to do....you can see my post unanswered there with quite a few others.....can be frustrating when you ask a question on their Forum and not get a direct answer. I noticed its a trend on there when trying to get help or info from the HP tuner guys. Not knocking them but it gets frustrating.J
03-09-2005, 11:43 AM
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Interesting thread. I will be keeping an eye on these new HP Tuners packages. The race fuel portion of the hyjack was interesting too. I see both sides of that story. Personally I agree with Bryan. Streetable and a true street car are different in my book. Anytime you have to start making excuses why you can't race, I don't have any race fuel in the car, my bottle is empty, etc. then you're getting away from a fun car and getting into a race car. Not saying it's right or wrong. But I understand where bryan is coming from. Assuming his claims are true he could fill up with a tank of 93 on the way to the beach and not have to worry about getting into it a little on the way there.
My only "knock" against race fuel is where to find it. No one remotely close sells it at the pump. Ordering gas in 5 gallon drums and having to fill in a percentage of each tank... Not so much a true street car.
But I'm not knocking the race gas setups. If you don't mind spending the extra $$$ and don't mind the hassle, go for it.
Mike
My only "knock" against race fuel is where to find it. No one remotely close sells it at the pump. Ordering gas in 5 gallon drums and having to fill in a percentage of each tank... Not so much a true street car.
But I'm not knocking the race gas setups. If you don't mind spending the extra $$$ and don't mind the hassle, go for it.
Mike
03-18-2005, 03:20 PM
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
We are using mototron 60's at 70psi base pressure and dual walbro 340's.
The 60s made it to 840rwhp at 60psi base, but they were maxed out.
The 60s made it to 840rwhp at 60psi base, but they were maxed out.