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Originally Posted by 427
Testing staged injection on Big Stuff 3.
2375hp@ 7500rpm
16 160lb hr inj.
BB chevy engine.
TT 91mm
Kurt
2375hp@ 7500rpm
16 160lb hr inj.
BB chevy engine.
TT 91mm
Kurt
Kinda curious, What size BBC was it? And do you know if Mike made those headers or if some other place did?
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They are the biggest Bosch inj that are commonly used. The problem is with the AF ratio's that are used on a forced induction engine the 160's will only support about 2000hp + -.
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
Kurt
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
Kurt
Originally Posted by NumberOneSled
Are 160lb hr inj. the biggest that are made?
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Ask Mike on the engine size, I could tell you but he would kill me.
I think these headers were made in Mike's shop.
Kurt
I think these headers were made in Mike's shop.
Kurt
Originally Posted by black70nova
Kinda curious, What size BBC was it? And do you know if Mike made those headers or if some other place did?
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Originally Posted by 427
They are the biggest Bosch inj that are commonly used. The problem is with the AF ratio's that are used on a forced induction engine the 160's will only support about 2000hp + -.
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
Kurt
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
Kurt
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Originally Posted by gator's 99TA
i have never seen bigger than 160lbs lol. probably why they went with 16 of them .
You can get bigger than 160s, Duttweiler has been using them for a while.
They also have a couple cars with staged injectors like Annette Summers and Ed Thorton.
I am very interested in the staged big stuff results please let us know more as it comes in!
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Originally Posted by 427
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
Kurt
Kurt
I'll be running pretty close to that same setup, and to say the least, I'm really excited about it.
It will be great to be able to cruise around on 93 instead of wasting race fuel all the time. Not to mention longer spark plug and wideband o2 life.
Amen brother!
Originally Posted by 427
They are the biggest Bosch inj that are commonly used. The problem is with the AF ratio's that are used on a forced induction engine the 160's will only support about 2000hp + -.
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
Kurt
The new feature of the BS3 is you can run one set of inj until a programed duty cycle is met then bring the other set in "staged". The thing that will be cool is to set up with 2 different pound per hour inj on a street car with multiple tanks and fuel systems. My 70 chevy station wagon has the stock fuel tank that will be plumbed with a single walbro pump to a set of 8 (1 in each port) 24lbs inj, this tank will have pump premium. Then in the 9 passenger well it has a 25 gallon cell that will have 2 walbro pumps plumbed to a set of 8 60 lbs hour inj, this tank will hold c-16 fuel. Now when my engine is under 400hp i will be driving on pump gas with the 24's, when it exceeds 80% duty cycle the 60's will start injecting c-16 so my safe boost level should be in the 20 psi range. The 25 gallon cell should last me multiple weeks of street driving even with some hard driving. This system will make a 1000-1200hp street car capable of driving across country on pump gas with full throttle available at anytime.
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Originally Posted by black70nova
Kinda curious, What size BBC was it? And do you know if Mike made those headers or if some other place did?
merlin block 4.6x bore 4" crank 2 sets 160# injectors and roughly 3000 hp when it's turned up. pretty sick. there's a full write-up on it in a hot rod mag a month or so ago. i've never met the man, but i admire the guy's ingenuity and attention to detail.
im curious, Kurt, was this run on c-16 or alchy?
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Torco 118NOS fuel.
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Originally Posted by Vents
not sure on the headers, but i'm pretty sure the motor is a 548 inch bbc.
merlin block 4.6x bore 4" crank 2 sets 160# injectors and roughly 3000 hp when it's turned up. pretty sick. there's a full write-up on it in a hot rod mag a month or so ago. i've never met the man, but i admire the guy's ingenuity and attention to detail.
im curious, Kurt, was this run on c-16 or alchy?
merlin block 4.6x bore 4" crank 2 sets 160# injectors and roughly 3000 hp when it's turned up. pretty sick. there's a full write-up on it in a hot rod mag a month or so ago. i've never met the man, but i admire the guy's ingenuity and attention to detail.
im curious, Kurt, was this run on c-16 or alchy?
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Is there any info on BS3 on the net somewhere. I searched for a homepage or something and couldn't find squat. I'd like to learn a little more about it, this thread has really caught my attention.