Want more Torque
Want more Torque How would I get more torque?????
I have about 100 more RWHP then I do torque. and I want some more torque, how would I go about doing it with my current setup.
*6L LS1 Cast iron block (honing cyls, blueprinting, balancing)
*ARP Studs
*Diamond Pistons (Dished for Boost, 4.030 bore, 3.622 stroker. coated and rings)
*Manley Connecting rods
*Clevite Race rod bearings
*Federal Mogol Main bearings
*Manley Valves
*Comp-R Lifters
*Cromoly Pushrods
*Comp 918 Valve springs
*6L Truck heads (stage 2 port work)
*6L GM crankshaft
*Meling LS1 oil pump
*Synergy Motorsports Cam (224/232 558/568 116LSA)
*LS6 Intake Manifold
*C5-R Timing chain
*Billet Fuel rails
*Alum. sumped tank
*Steel braided lines (-8 feed, -6 return line)
*Aeromotive Inline pump (A1000)
*Aeromotive Fuel regulator
*Seimens 55 LB injectors
I have about 100 more RWHP then I do torque. and I want some more torque, how would I go about doing it with my current setup.
*6L LS1 Cast iron block (honing cyls, blueprinting, balancing)
*ARP Studs
*Diamond Pistons (Dished for Boost, 4.030 bore, 3.622 stroker. coated and rings)
*Manley Connecting rods
*Clevite Race rod bearings
*Federal Mogol Main bearings
*Manley Valves
*Comp-R Lifters
*Cromoly Pushrods
*Comp 918 Valve springs
*6L Truck heads (stage 2 port work)
*6L GM crankshaft
*Meling LS1 oil pump
*Synergy Motorsports Cam (224/232 558/568 116LSA)
*LS6 Intake Manifold
*C5-R Timing chain
*Billet Fuel rails
*Alum. sumped tank
*Steel braided lines (-8 feed, -6 return line)
*Aeromotive Inline pump (A1000)
*Aeromotive Fuel regulator
*Seimens 55 LB injectors
What does it make power wise again?????? rwhp and rwtq??? D1-SC correct??? and by you saying more hp then tq its a M6 correct???? You can always switch to a auto............. TH-400.......
Kyle
Kyle
Right now he is making 687HP and 585TQ. ~12-13 PSI for now.
Big stroke is nice, but not easy on the motor for longevity versus shirter stroke. Plus not everyone wants to shell out another 2K on a crank.
Rick
Big stroke is nice, but not easy on the motor for longevity versus shirter stroke. Plus not everyone wants to shell out another 2K on a crank.
Rick
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From: Sydney Australia
Originally Posted by MelloYellow
Anyone want to comment on Cam LSA/Duration vs. TQ?
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LOL, I was thinking more like a 114 224/228 if you'd like more TQ, or even less duration if you'd just like the powerband and TQ moved to more useable lower rpm's, like a 218/224 114.
My car is very TQ'y down low and mid.
My car is very TQ'y down low and mid.
Sure his torque will come up faster, but then it will no longer be a stealth camshaft, plus he passes smog right now. Wont the power band be more peaky with a tighter lsa versus what he has now?
Rick
Rick
that 224/228 is very close to what he is using now already. I wanted more on the duration out back to get stuff out of the chamber more effectivly. We could always advance the cam 2 degrees if we wanted too to help out.
Rick
Rick
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From: Sydney Australia
Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
Sure his torque will come up faster, but then it will no longer be a stealth camshaft, plus he passes smog right now. Wont the power band be more peaky with a tighter lsa versus what he has now?
Rick
Rick
Stealthy? On LS1’s I’ve seen baby 220 duration camshafts idle worse than mid 270’s @ .050” with lobes tighter than 103 separation. Really!
Although the request is for more torque, I’d say this guy (sscamaro387)is looking for more drivability and power down low, without having to string the engine out to 3,000+ rpm on the street in order to feel what he has paid for. Otherwise he wouldn’t be chasing a figure that realistically is a ridiculous way of finding more torque. Torque with his set-up goes hand in hand with horsepower and obviously RPM with this selection.
Realistically, when ever anyone has a complaint with torque regarding this style of set-up, you need to look towards the camshaft. On this engine (I’m sorry to say) it’s all wrong! The unfortunate part is, if the intake ports are opened up to buggery, you’ll be chasing your tail even further!
116lsa looks more like a choice made by someone who can’t tune.
Sorry for the simple reality check and I’m also sorry for the bloke who now has to battle with the problem of making it work for the customer. Dyno and strip? Yep it will go! Drivability…. No way! Hence the torque queries! TECH Fanatic
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From: Centrifugal City
Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
that 224/228 is very close to what he is using now already. I wanted more on the duration out back to get stuff out of the chamber more effectivly. We could always advance the cam 2 degrees if we wanted too to help out.
Rick
Rick
Is a cam swap an option?
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From: Sacramento, CA
I doub't it's a lack of tuning ability or being skerd to tune. He did a hell of a job on my truck producing a ton of power yet being streetable. Both on my new turbo setup and on my old 226/.535/112 cam when I was N/A. The thing drove better than stock and trapped 97mph (86mph stock). Not bad for a big truck and stock motor.
Originally Posted by Rick@Synergy
Right now he is making 687HP and 585TQ. ~12-13 PSI for now.
To get the torque up, might want to look at a different cam grind.
Do you have a graph?
My T400 blower car is 750rwhp/650rwtq or so. 236/246//114.