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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:29 PM
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are you serious???
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 09:36 PM
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I would pay big money if you filmed you doing this.

Would need you to wear a bunny costume or something else equally interesting.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 10:55 PM
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yyyeeeeehhhaaawwww god this is such a redneck idea...seriously i think my air compressor is louder than my car with open headers. EVEN IF IT WAS FESABLE why the **** would you? im honestly in awe.
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Old Feb 25, 2005 | 11:09 PM
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Originally Posted by gogogadgetcar
thats what i was thinking,
I heard the problem with running pure oxygen is that it burns way too hot and that it is pretty volatile, but if you could get away with it your bottle would last way longer
Volatile is a understatement. As soon as pure O2 hits spark
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 12:14 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I would pay big money if you filmed you doing this.

Would need you to wear a bunny costume or something else equally interesting.
bahaha I'll pitch in for the bunny suit!
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:21 AM
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Bahh...guess we should cut him a little slack. Here's his profile:


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I'm 16 years old and have been working on engines since I was 12 years old. I love working on engines and hope one day after going to SAM, I will be a professional engine builder at a major company
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As of now I work as a bagger and Winn-Dixie and I'm also a Plumber's assistant


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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:33 AM
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Hey, it may sound weird, but it WOULD make a difference, no matter how small it is. A buddy of mine took an old vacuum motor out of a shopvac that worked in forward and reverse, set up a flap on the air filter to block it off when the motor was on, and then tried it while the car was idling. The car leaned out so much it almost died. That means that it COULD work. BTW, it was on a 4 banger Grand Am, but still, the general concept worked.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 01:44 AM
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It won't work well enough to where its worth the effot... An air compressor cannot flow enough air as a super or turbo charger.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 03:03 AM
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Originally Posted by lilone
Volatile is a understatement. As soon as pure O2 hits spark
You do realize that oxygen isn't flammable right? It is an oxident that SUPPORTS combustion but you still need a fuel source for a sustained reaction. Why do you think nitrous works? It adds extra OXYGEN which, along with the added fuel, makes more of a .

Pure O2 in moderation and regulated would be no different than running nitrous. Of course regulating the correct mixture is what is important since you have to stay within the UEL and LEL of the fuel you are using.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 03:25 AM
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It is important to note that fire chemistry starts to change when the concentration of oxygen increases to as little as 23%. Materials easily ignited in air not only become more susceptible to ignition, but also burn with added violence in the presence of oxygen

I looked that up safety considerations for liquid oxygen and that was part of what it said...just FYI

here's the rest of it if anyone cares
http://www-safety.deas.harvard.edu/services/oxygen.html
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Which is what I said You have to stay within the upper and lower explosive limit or else you won't get a burn....which is exactly why you can put a match out in liquid gasoline (just stay away from those pesky vapors). The LEL and UEL for gasoline is around 1.4% and 7.6%....below the former you are too lean to burn and above the latter you are too rich.

But hell....I'm just a firefighter, what do I know
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 03:39 AM
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Oh I should add that the LEL and UEL do change slightly in a pure oxygen environment (the LEL) whereas the UEL "usually" has a pretty significant increase with pure O2. But with the setup he's talking about, even running compressed pure O2 you would have quite a bit of "normal air" in the charge so the limits wouldn't change that much.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 08:07 AM
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Originally Posted by gogogadgetcar
thats what i was thinking,
I heard the problem with running pure oxygen is that it burns way too hot and that it is pretty volatile, but if you could get away with it your bottle would last way longer
You are exactly correct. It will burn too fast, and cause masive problems. The way you can control or buffer the burn rate of the oxygen is to add nitrogen to it. Thats what NO2 is, you have the nitrogen to buffer the oxygen.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 08:18 AM
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Originally Posted by ryan23
Bahh...guess we should cut him a little slack. Here's his profile:






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OK, sorry kid, I did not take the time to read your profile. I take back the crap I gave you. I thought I was picking a fight with an older person like me. Hope you will come up with other ideas and not let me or any of us others wear you down.

But your idea has been tried over and over again, and it will not work. Sorry.

Keep up the ideas and you will run across something that will work.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:54 AM
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Hey you might be on to something here. What I would do is get everything powder coated real nice, then you need think up a real nice logo. This is key to whether this system is going to sell.(SOME PEOPLE LIKE LOGO'S) After you have all that set up I would contact a mod about becomeing a sponsor and start selling these system like water in the desert.

GOOD LUCK,
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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This a GREAT thread Only on the internet
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 10:46 AM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I would pay big money if you filmed you doing this.

Would need you to wear a bunny costume or something else equally interesting.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 02:26 PM
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Originally Posted by GhostZ
You do realize that oxygen isn't flammable right? It is an oxident that SUPPORTS combustion but you still need a fuel source for a sustained reaction. Why do you think nitrous works? It adds extra OXYGEN which, along with the added fuel, makes more of a .

Pure O2 in moderation and regulated would be no different than running nitrous. Of course regulating the correct mixture is what is important since you have to stay within the UEL and LEL of the fuel you are using.
You are correct in the fact that Pure O2 isn't flammable and is a DOT 2.2 gas. That still doesn't mean it is a good idea to feed it into your motor. Otherwise there would be O2 wet kits, etc.

N2O doesn't really work like O2 at all in a engine. First off it is unflammable just like O2 but doesn't help combustion at first. It has to reach 565 degrees F before it breaks down into nitrogen and oxygen. At that point it aids combustion. It also raises the concentration of gasses in your cylinder which in turn increases cylinder pressure (compression) and it cools the incoming air charge allowing a denser flow into the cylinder.

Pure O2 on the other hand starts off as an aid to fire. All you need is one misfire, improper fuel mix etc. and you are toast. Not to mention proper regulation of O2 would be extremely hard to achieve. If you think a nitrous backfire is bad imagine spraying fuel and O2 through your intake. It wouldn't end with good results.

That is what I meant by my volatility statement above.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Texas_WS6
But please, do not let me, a trained tech, keep you from screwing up your truck. I love making money off people like you. See you soon.
If you were so smart, Nitrous Oxide is N20, not N02. Duh!
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 04:27 PM
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Originally Posted by ryan23
Bahh...guess we should cut him a little slack. Here's his profile:






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Pretty funnny Huh? Yeah, let's keep talking newbie.
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