John@phamspeed Drilling/tapping Oil Pan Help Needed
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John@phamspeed Drilling/tapping Oil Pan Help Needed 
What size drill and tap to use on the oil pan on the return side? Also needs to be done to get oil from above the oil filter, I know place it has to go, but do I need to tap that too or just drill it?
If not john any other phamspeeders out there that can help me with these two questions?
Also, whats the best method to drill the pan? Drain the oil? How do I keep the shavings out? Do I have to JB weld the fitting afterwards to assure no leaks from the new oil return thats now sticking out of the pan.
Sorry for all the questions guys but this part of the install is vague and a lil nerve wracking.
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TTT for John, and please look my pics over to check out the clearance between the K member and the header...maybe you can give me some advice to remedy this lil problem.
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For press side you will need a drill bit and a tap of the correct diameter and pitch.
For the return side, I'm not sure what kind of fitting they gave you but mine, I had to clean off the oil pan surface and weld a fitting on then drill out the pan after the fitting was on then clean all the shavings out.
For the return side, I'm not sure what kind of fitting they gave you but mine, I had to clean off the oil pan surface and weld a fitting on then drill out the pan after the fitting was on then clean all the shavings out.
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Yep clear as day there but as for what pitch and diameter who knows. No documents, instructions or handy helper tips came with either oil line. For the return I have a threaded barb fitting, It threads into the pan. Its a 45 deg elbow fitting...guess I could go match it up at Home Depot Racers supply and maybe find the right tap there too.
The small SS braided feedline will have to be matched up to I rekon.
J
The small SS braided feedline will have to be matched up to I rekon.
J
Originally Posted by frcefed98
Yep clear as day there but as for what pitch and diameter who knows. No documents, instructions or handy helper tips came with either oil line. For the return I have a threaded barb fitting, It threads into the pan. Its a 45 deg elbow fitting...guess I could go match it up at Home Depot Racers supply and maybe find the right tap there too.
The small SS braided feedline will have to be matched up to I rekon.
J
The small SS braided feedline will have to be matched up to I rekon.
J
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I'll find it all tomorrow. I'm use to being on my own when it comes to these fun projects
Just thought I'd try the board first since there is atleast two people out there with Phamspeed kits on their T/A and camaro, but apparently I'm the only one who installed it himself. Thought John or his other buddy might pop in tonight here on tech.
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Just thought I'd try the board first since there is atleast two people out there with Phamspeed kits on their T/A and camaro, but apparently I'm the only one who installed it himself. Thought John or his other buddy might pop in tonight here on tech.J
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The feed line you'll have to tap into that piece on top of the oil filter. It is a 1/8"npt
The return line either you can find a place or go where I tell my customers. Right beside or just above the low oil sensor. It is a 3/8"npt fitting
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The feed line you'll have to tap into that piece on top of the oil filter. It is a 1/8"npt
The return line either you can find a place or go where I tell my customers. Right beside or just above the low oil sensor. It is a 3/8"npt fitting
The feed line you'll have to tap into that piece on top of the oil filter. It is a 1/8"npt
The return line either you can find a place or go where I tell my customers. Right beside or just above the low oil sensor. It is a 3/8"npt fitting
be sure and use plenty of teflon paste on both pipe threads.
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Now thats the help i'm looking for, got the 1/8 NPT tap covered, had it sitting in the tool box for some forgotten project way back when.
The 3/8 NPT tap i'll have to go out and get. Thanks for the tips on how to drill and tap both, my D1 was self contained and so was my powerdyne...so i've never done this. You are a great help, thanks
I think once I get the pan tapped and the 3/8 fitting threaded in there i'll mix up some JB weld to seal it for good so it won't move or leak if it gets bumped or banged.
....I am a customer you didn't tell me
This info is vital to a DIY'er, if a small list of tools needed was included, and small write up on how and where to tap...that would have been a time saver. Its my DD so I need it back on the road...also need a turbo to get that done.
Might want to let customers know that if they have a BMR k member, it gets in the way and will have to be "clearance" with a grinder to get enough room for the passenger side header flange -V band- Y pipe flange combo. See my post with the install pics, That clearance gets even worse when the engine is let down...I have it jacked up quite a bit. Or make the header flange come .5 inch closer to the starter...there is room to do it.
Glad I have this great board to come and ask questions on, it might take a few hours if that but your questions will almost be answered 100% of the time.
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Now thats the help i'm looking for, got the 1/8 NPT tap covered, had it sitting in the tool box for some forgotten project way back when. The 3/8 NPT tap i'll have to go out and get. Thanks for the tips on how to drill and tap both, my D1 was self contained and so was my powerdyne...so i've never done this. You are a great help, thanks
I think once I get the pan tapped and the 3/8 fitting threaded in there i'll mix up some JB weld to seal it for good so it won't move or leak if it gets bumped or banged.
Originally Posted by LT1-7
The return line either you can find a place or go where I tell my customers. Right beside or just above the low oil sensor. It is a 3/8"npt fitting
This info is vital to a DIY'er, if a small list of tools needed was included, and small write up on how and where to tap...that would have been a time saver. Its my DD so I need it back on the road...also need a turbo to get that done.Might want to let customers know that if they have a BMR k member, it gets in the way and will have to be "clearance" with a grinder to get enough room for the passenger side header flange -V band- Y pipe flange combo. See my post with the install pics, That clearance gets even worse when the engine is let down...I have it jacked up quite a bit. Or make the header flange come .5 inch closer to the starter...there is room to do it.
Glad I have this great board to come and ask questions on, it might take a few hours if that but your questions will almost be answered 100% of the time.
J
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Yep the line is pretty damn big, 1/2 inch like stated above, I don't see any problem with this line, I'm comfortable with John's experience with turbo systems and will use the line provided.
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Originally Posted by LT1-7
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The feed line you'll have to tap into that piece on top of the oil filter. It is a 1/8"npt
The return line either you can find a place or go where I tell my customers. Right beside or just above the low oil sensor. It is a 3/8"npt fitting
The feed line you'll have to tap into that piece on top of the oil filter. It is a 1/8"npt
The return line either you can find a place or go where I tell my customers. Right beside or just above the low oil sensor. It is a 3/8"npt fitting
Gary
Originally Posted by red ws6 99
For the return line why drill a new hole, just use the low oil level sensor port. If oil level ever got that low you would be in deep trouble. I have Incon return through this location, of course pump fed. No tapping, no drilling, no special fitting, just -8 AN and your done.
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
Might want to let customers know that if they have a BMR k member, it gets in the way and will have to be "clearance" with a grinder to get enough room for the passenger side header flange -V band- Y pipe flange combo.
Originally Posted by sb427f-car
Since you don't have the A/C in the car, did you get a forward facing header?? Would that issue have been solved with a forward facing header? Would there still be room with the A/C and an aftermarket K-memeber? Although, the likelihood that I'd run into this problem when I go aftermarket k-member will be slim, just curious. (meaning by that point the AC will probably be gone.