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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 05:25 AM
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I posted earlier suggesting a Phamspeed or STS. Again, reading all this seems to makes sense also. Quiet, 500rwhp stock bottom, plus you already went the SC, & HCN routes. The only reason I specifically called out those two SPONSORS is because I am sure ppl will want to follow in your path, thats what 90% of us here do, see a setup thats the way we want and go for it. Is there a sponsor offering a TT setup? And how many others are offering a kit capable of 500rwhp, there are some, but none as simple as Phamspeed and STS, no need to move half you engine bay stuff around etc. Ultimately it is your car Tony, but I believe you wanted a little push for a Turbo setup as well. I hope you decide on a Turbo, and preferably one of those 2 mentioned. Good luck.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:56 AM
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I'm also considering the Stainless Works setup, watching Zangel's progress closely to see how well it goes. Seems simple too. I've got time to shop, no hurry
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 09:05 AM
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The PTK kit will allow you to keep all your accessories and you can run up to a 76GTS. We are test fitting a T88 with the system as well.

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Nine Ball
I'm also considering the Stainless Works setup, watching Zangel's progress closely to see how well it goes. Seems simple too. I've got time to shop, no hurry
IMHO go with the Phamspeed over the stainless works. Tubular headers beat logs ANY day.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:23 AM
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I'll get my post (*****) in on this, TURBO. Believe the rear mount turbo will be your most quiet option. My $0.02, but it's only worth $0.005.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 12:33 PM
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Originally Posted by eviltwins
IMHO go with the Phamspeed over the stainless works. Tubular headers beat logs ANY day.
I agree that headers are better, but keep in mind the goals here. I'm not looking for all-out performance, only a 'measly' 500 rwhp on pump gas. I'm basically building another magazine car that I can also daily drive.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 08:36 PM
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definately go turbo, 1 or 2 it doesn't matter if they are the right size(s).
as far as headers vs manifolds, the ohio boys are mking @1400+hp with stock 6.0 manifolds. i don't think they limit the power much.

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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 10:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gen 3 bu
definately go turbo, 1 or 2 it doesn't matter if they are the right size(s).
as far as headers vs manifolds, the ohio boys are mking @1400+hp with stock 6.0 manifolds. i don't think they limit the power much.

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And I know a guy who made 860 RWHP through a 3" downpipe, but that doesn't mean it wouldn't make more power and spool quicker with a 4" on there FWIW the stock truck manifolds merged together properly will flow a lot better than the stainless works/unmentionable companies log design where all the gasses from the motor flow through a single log, so that's a decent setup, but when the phamspeed kit is quite affordable I see no reason not to run it.
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Old Mar 20, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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The advantage of the truck manifolds was pointed out to me as being (1) the fact that they are cast manfolds, (2) would not crack as quickly due to heat, and (3) have supported 1300 crank hp.

Tony, I think the old qm/p setup could make 500rwhp. With the right turbo.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 09:18 AM
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i would also like to see a turbo setup, i think it would be nice to see a full install, detailed like you would do it i am sure, on the phamspeed kit. one reason i say this is b/c the goals for your car are alot more common to the majority of the people on the board. sure all of us would like to have a 900rwhp car, but most would be happy with a 450-550rwhp setup that could maintain excellent street manners. plus by using the phamspeed kit, you could show how affordable a nice setup could be on that type of car for the street/strip.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:12 AM
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If you are only looking for 500 out of a turbo kit, a good old fashioned turbo tech T76 kit is all you need.

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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:57 AM
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Simple setup---->D1 w/intercooler and 10lbs of boost along w/a forged short and a set of MTI 6.0 heads along with an LSX/90 combo.Should make 550 EASY on pump gas and be very streetable.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 11:58 AM
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just a thought...

with a blower, you are always making boost, even when its not needed as in at idle and crusing around (talking about street driving here). so if your making any kind of real boost, when youre just driving around at 3k on the highway say, youre making your boost, rather than a turbo at 3g on the highway in cruise control making "no" boost. Easier on the car in the long run.

to me this would cure your "diveability and reliability" issues. Yes i know lots of cars come stock with blowers and do just fine, but you are building one, not off an assembly line, and its still BETTER on the internals regardless of if you can/cant do it kinda thing.

twin or single? meh whatever, 550 is so easily attained with a turbo that it doesnt matter.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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I say go with a Procharger 8# race kit with a D1SC, headers, heads and blower cam. Should have no problem making 525-550 rwhp.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 01:28 PM
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Actually Zach, just TOOLing around I am in vacuum. I"m only in boost when my foot is on the godaddy pedal or I wind a gear out.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 01:30 PM
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with your th400 and if you were to be on the highway at 3g, you wouldnt be making boost? hows that possible, the accessory belt is moving as fast as it would "under load" at 3g. so how can you not be making boost? i was always told that blowers make boost all the time period.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:11 PM
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Its In Boost Only When A Load Is Put On, Very Similar To A Turbo But Still Has Parasitic Loss Due To Being Belt Driven Off The Crank.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:14 PM
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you know, this subject has been brought up a lot even being the leader so to speak, i am suprised and disgusted that no one has been the search ****
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Tony, I think the old qm/p setup could make 500rwhp. With the right turbo.
Definition of irony: Nine Ball running a QM/P turbo setup.
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Old Mar 21, 2005 | 02:44 PM
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Nice one.
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