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How many miles... Like it says. How many miles do you street guys have your motors. I'm not talking the likes of Harlan and smokinhawk, but those of you who have slapped a blower or a turbo kit on there how many miles did you have on the car before you did. (I'd prefer to know how many miles you had on the factory shortblock, and how many miles you have on it after putting it to boost). I think most of you know that I just got done with school and since tax season (accountant if you hadn't gathered, I'm available in MD, PA, DE next year to help with taxes btw) is coming to a close which means that all that OT I've been clocking will finally hit 
so I'm in the hunt for basically a "platform". I'm not too concerned with mileage as I figure I'll rebuild/replace the suspension components, the 10 bolt, wheels, tires, ect when needed to get what I'm after (turns left and right, goes straight and goes fast ). So basically what it boils down to is finding the right color with a 6spd @ the right price. Input please.
EDIT: Oh, and the other thing I'm getting at is would you go after a higher mileage car knowing that you'll eventually pull the motor, rebuild or replace (thus saving money now for more fun stuff later), or a lower mileage car and make the project go more slowly? Thanks!
so I'm in the hunt for basically a "platform". I'm not too concerned with mileage as I figure I'll rebuild/replace the suspension components, the 10 bolt, wheels, tires, ect when needed to get what I'm after (turns left and right, goes straight and goes fast ). So basically what it boils down to is finding the right color with a 6spd @ the right price. Input please.EDIT: Oh, and the other thing I'm getting at is would you go after a higher mileage car knowing that you'll eventually pull the motor, rebuild or replace (thus saving money now for more fun stuff later), or a lower mileage car and make the project go more slowly? Thanks!
i havent been driving mine enough.
put the turbo on 57K miles, forged my engine at 63k, currently have about 70k. i think i work on it more then i drive it.
I cant drive it in the winter around here, and in the summer i put alot of miles on my bike (50mpg and runs 10.90's ), and of coarse i have been working on this and that on my car since 04 so its been down alot.
put the turbo on 57K miles, forged my engine at 63k, currently have about 70k. i think i work on it more then i drive it.
I cant drive it in the winter around here, and in the summer i put alot of miles on my bike (50mpg and runs 10.90's
), and of coarse i have been working on this and that on my car since 04 so its been down alot. Thread Starter
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Well, the good news is that I have a daily driver so, we're clear there. No worries about down time to get around town and to / from work. Thanks for the input. Yeah Matt, I thought that you put the blower on the car around 50k. I'm looking @ two TAs on auto trader, one's from a private seller 64K and the other one is from a dealer with about 52K. Both are 99s and look clean from the pics. Just trying to decide what to do. I need to find some time to go look @ them. Matt you have your comp with you when you are back in PA this weekend? The one from a dealer is in Manhime (sp?) I believe (yeah, I'm asking if you could scan the PCM )
Smokinhawk, I was thinking of the other guy with the twin build up like harlan, not you btw.
I'd also be more concerned with maintenance schedules if the previous own used the car as a DD. Looks like I'll be makin some phone calls this week/weekend. Oh so tempting!! I'll keep ya posted!
) Smokinhawk, I was thinking of the other guy with the twin build up like harlan, not you btw.
I'd also be more concerned with maintenance schedules if the previous own used the car as a DD. Looks like I'll be makin some phone calls this week/weekend. Oh so tempting!! I'll keep ya posted!
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I put mine on at 28K and I think I'm over 40K now. No issues and I run 11psi on a stock bottom end currently(I didn't start at 11 though). Are you gonna gut this thing out and make it a drag car? If so then I would go for the cheapest price. If not, then go with the cleaner looking car. Engine miles aren't much of a concern if you're gonna rebuild it in a few years anyways. Hell I'd even look over 100K miles. LS1s easy live that long.
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Mike, the problem I think it ultimately comes down to is finding the right color. I don't have full intentions on gutting the car ASAP, so as long as the interior is clean, body is straight, clean and clear title, ect. That's really what I'm after. Honestly, I think the first iteration of the car would be a strip/street/road course/auto-x car. I want something fun, something I can wrench on, something I'll cut my teeth on and something that will grow as I grow mechanically. Like I said, I'd probably do the prep stuff first. Hood (since both of these cars I'm looking @ are stock TAs ) suspension (LCA, panhard bar, sway bars both front and rear, strut tower brace, sub frames, TQ arm bushing), breaks, rear, clutch. Then I'd put it to boost maybe next winter/spring/summer. After that then stepup and build a motor and get more serious, if that's where I decide to go. Like I said, this would be a nice weather car that sees weekend / track time, and maybe a drive to work on a Friday or two, but never the rain or salt!
Thanks for the input guys!
) suspension (LCA, panhard bar, sway bars both front and rear, strut tower brace, sub frames, TQ arm bushing), breaks, rear, clutch. Then I'd put it to boost maybe next winter/spring/summer. After that then stepup and build a motor and get more serious, if that's where I decide to go. Like I said, this would be a nice weather car that sees weekend / track time, and maybe a drive to work on a Friday or two, but never the rain or salt!Thanks for the input guys!
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Mike, the problem I think it ultimately comes down to is finding the right color.
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lol, smokin' That's the color i'm after. LOVE that color.
I don't know if this is the same hood as the firehawk, but it's like a cross between a WS6 hood and a firehawk hood. Besides, I really don't want to pay the premium for a firehawk and I really wouldn't need the WS6, since the suspension is going to be rebuilt/replaced. BTW, this is the one I'm thinking of.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...5&BIG=100075-1
I don't know if this is the same hood as the firehawk, but it's like a cross between a WS6 hood and a firehawk hood. Besides, I really don't want to pay the premium for a firehawk and I really wouldn't need the WS6, since the suspension is going to be rebuilt/replaced. BTW, this is the one I'm thinking of.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...5&BIG=100075-1
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lol, smokin' That's the color i'm after. LOVE that color.
I don't know if this is the same hood as the firehawk, but it's like a cross between a WS6 hood and a firehawk hood. Besides, I really don't want to pay the premium for a firehawk and I really wouldn't need the WS6, since the suspension is going to be rebuilt/replaced. BTW, this is the one I'm thinking of.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...5&BIG=100075-1
I don't know if this is the same hood as the firehawk, but it's like a cross between a WS6 hood and a firehawk hood. Besides, I really don't want to pay the premium for a firehawk and I really wouldn't need the WS6, since the suspension is going to be rebuilt/replaced. BTW, this is the one I'm thinking of.
http://www.slponline.com/view_produc...5&BIG=100075-1
That looks like a raptor hood which is very similar to the Hawk hood. As for paying for the Hawk package, that's up to you. If you look hard enough you can find a deal, even on a Hawk.
Mike
what color you after black or blue?
ther is a black one (auto) in my city, not sure the year or the price
plain trans am.
i sould have looked harder for a black one but i realy wanted a 6speed.
ther is a black one (auto) in my city, not sure the year or the price
plain trans am.
i sould have looked harder for a black one but i realy wanted a 6speed.
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what color you after black or blue?
ther is a black one (auto) in my city, not sure the year or the price
plain trans am.
i sould have looked harder for a black one but i realy wanted a 6speed.
ther is a black one (auto) in my city, not sure the year or the price
plain trans am.
i sould have looked harder for a black one but i realy wanted a 6speed.
Blue. Not much on black... Suncoast's is also similar (though I can't remember how much they are and I crossed that one the other day). Besides, it comes down to the same conversation you and I had Mike, if I do decide to hack the car later (years down the road) I wouldn't want that to come back and haunt me as far as a hawk.
eek probably to much i just added up i got 8K in the engine, drivetrain, fuel and another 1.5k in suspension
to get a black, non T-toped firebird it would be about 8K
so i cant think of any good way for a win win situation
unless you want a car with a built motor and 12bolt.
to get a black, non T-toped firebird it would be about 8K
so i cant think of any good way for a win win situation
unless you want a car with a built motor and 12bolt.
16,000 miles on my 600+ RWHP motor. However, I just broke a valvespring, so shes down right now..
The motor still looks strong, and compression is good on all cylinders, except #8 with the bad spring..
Clint
The motor still looks strong, and compression is good on all cylinders, except #8 with the bad spring..
Clint
I suggest buying a bone stock car. My car was modded with a high lift and tight lsa cam (110.5 or something) unfortunately the previous owner had no idea what he was doing and destroyed the deck. Instead of forging the stock block i had to trash it. If i knew what i was going to do i would have bought a 98 M6(atleast my gauges would be accurate) and just would have sold the motor + PCM as a whole (i only got $150 for my block). Also a 98's tank is metal so it's easy to sump. A PCM from a 2001 or 2002 usually costs about $150 and i would rather run an iron block since i plan to do some big power (goal is to hit a max of 1000 rwhp with a modified CAS kit). I know you've been interested in a turbo kit. My best advice is to build your car to work with what you plan to do and start from one end of the car and work to the other. I am doing my forged iron block now with worked 6.0 heads(well HPE is), K-member, modified CAS TT setup, g-force 6 speed tranny, spec 4f or aussie clutch, fuel system (sumped tank, weldon pump, injectors, boost referenced FPR, high pressure line), and hptuners 3 bar MAP tuning. Lastly, i will do suspension and rear end work (9") since i want to get the car on the road again (it's been down since august). I hope everything goes as smoothly as i am thinking it will.
Good luck!
Greg
unfortunately the previous owner had no idea what he was doing and destroyed the deck. Instead of forging the stock block i had to trash it. If i knew what i was going to do i would have bought a 98 M6(atleast my gauges would be accurate) and just would have sold the motor + PCM as a whole (i only got $150 for my block). Also a 98's tank is metal so it's easy to sump. A PCM from a 2001 or 2002 usually costs about $150 and i would rather run an iron block since i plan to do some big power (goal is to hit a max of 1000 rwhp with a modified CAS kit). I know you've been interested in a turbo kit. My best advice is to build your car to work with what you plan to do and start from one end of the car and work to the other. I am doing my forged iron block now with worked 6.0 heads(well HPE is), K-member, modified CAS TT setup, g-force 6 speed tranny, spec 4f or aussie clutch, fuel system (sumped tank, weldon pump, injectors, boost referenced FPR, high pressure line), and hptuners 3 bar MAP tuning. Lastly, i will do suspension and rear end work (9") since i want to get the car on the road again (it's been down since august). I hope everything goes as smoothly as i am thinking it will.Good luck!
Greg
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