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Old 04-06-2005 | 11:47 AM
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Does anyone know of a vendor that sells a D1SC kit complete with a front-mount Griffin intercooler and plumbing? Or another non-OBX FMIC kit?

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Old 04-06-2005 | 12:32 PM
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just curious why you dont want an obx setup?

shooting for well over 700rwhp????
Old 04-06-2005 | 02:08 PM
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Hey, Heath... I know Rick has the OBX setup all ready to go... and that he's got happy customers using it... but my installer *really* doesn't like the quality of the OBX IC. So I'm taking his advice and looking for a Griffin or similar.

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Old 04-06-2005 | 02:11 PM
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And if everyone believed everything they heard from their "installer" nobody would ever run a blow thru carb because they don't work, everyone would clearly know that superchargers are way better than turbos because you have no turbo lag, you can't run more than 10-12 pounds of boost and 600 RWHP on an LS1 because the heads always lift and the PCM sucks or the MAF maxes out, and there is no way you can build a 400 HP streetable 4-cylinder car.

See where I'm going? The quality of the OBX kit is perfectly fine. I tested mine with shop air to 40 psi with no leaks. It's fine, the griffin is not worth the several hundred dollars more.
Old 04-06-2005 | 03:01 PM
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ahhh well thats definetly your perrogative to take his advice but (doing the tipping the scales with my hands) 1 guys opinion vs dozens of satisfied users........
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try speed inc
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try speed inc
x2 in the forced induction section at the bottom you can buy them
Old 04-06-2005 | 04:01 PM
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Yeah, I did see that Speed, Inc. have the intercoolers. I'm looking for a full FMIC setup with plumbing, hopefully to fit the D1SC, on a Trans Am.
Old 04-06-2005 | 04:21 PM
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Evil, I think OBX coolers are 250-300? Griffin is 450-550. I'm surprised to see you thinking that the Griffin stuff is overpriced. A better comparison would be OBX vs custom Spearco 2 cores.
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don't think he said they were overpriced. just said why spend hundreds more when the obx unit performs perfectly fine. put the $200+ towards something else.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Evil, I think OBX coolers are 250-300? Griffin is 450-550. I'm surprised to see you thinking that the Griffin stuff is overpriced. A better comparison would be OBX vs custom Spearco 2 cores.
I don't think the Griffin is overpriced at all, I just don't think it's worth the extra dough over an OBX for 90% of people's setups on here. Lots of people have reported stellar IAT's with the OBX, I don't see any reason not to run it.
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Originally Posted by RW99
Yeah, I did see that Speed, Inc. have the intercoolers. I'm looking for a full FMIC setup with plumbing, hopefully to fit the D1SC, on a Trans Am.

Your pretty much out of luck man sorry to say......... If i can do the piping myself and make a bracket then pretty much anyone can... well i do know how to weld and other stuff....... I only welded 4 times on my homemade IC piping and on the 4 corners of the bracket and the supports. I had a help from a buddy.....

I went with a Griffin this time because i WILL be over 800rwhp so..... and it helps not to pay full price..
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bell intercoolers
you'll need to make your own charge pipes and brackets....not that hard
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Originally Posted by eviltwins
And if everyone believed everything they heard from their "installer" nobody would ever run a blow thru carb because they don't work, everyone would clearly know that superchargers are way better than turbos because you have no turbo lag, you can't run more than 10-12 pounds of boost and 600 RWHP on an LS1 because the heads always lift and the PCM sucks or the MAF maxes out, and there is no way you can build a 400 HP streetable 4-cylinder car.


I'd go w/ the OBX, but that's me. Bell makes some good stuff too, but for the price, OBX is hard to beat. My only beef w/ OBX is that they're made in some factory in China.
Old 04-07-2005 | 10:29 AM
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mongse, that's something I hadn't thought about. After a while, you get to assuming that EVERYTHING is made in China. As for trusting your installer's opinion, well, that's the whole friggin' point, to me. I can't install and tune all this stuff myself. He's done it before, and knows f-bodies and LS1s damn well. No disrespect to the OBX guys... I've heard great things about that unit and the price is sure right. Each to his own.

But it'll be Griffin for me: I'm going to choose the American product. It's a high quality, custom piece made by people in South Carolina.

Sorry, Armageddon, you'll have to pick up your own dinner tab.

Thanks for the input, guys.

By the way, I just received my AFR225s last night. They are now covered in drool
Old 04-18-2005 | 10:20 AM
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Just curios what is the best HP anyone has achieved with the OBX intercoolers? I would say they would be ok for lower level HP but, I dont know if anyone is doing 700-800 at the wheels with these am I wrong?
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purevl did over 700 with his I do believe.

have a local procharged car here doing 687 so far

there are 2 others local here that will be shooting for 700 or more as well all using the OBX
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Originally Posted by Blackbird
purevl did over 700 with his I do believe.

have a local procharged car here doing 687 so far

there are 2 others local here that will be shooting for 700 or more as well all using the OBX
Sounds great what is the type of compressor are they using? If there was someone out there that has a dyno or acces to dyno time that has an OBX intercooler I might be able to supplyer them with a Griffin intercooler that is similar in size but; should be alot more efficient as well as lighter. From what i have noticed is that there is alot less area in the bar and plate designs (not all of them) per each passage then what we offer in a Griffin stuffed tube design.
Old 04-18-2005 | 12:48 PM
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D1 and the others are STS. One car, one truck.

the owner of the shop does actually have a dyno on the way.

you may want to contact him to see if he is interested at all.

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