I would go with Phamspeed if you can live without AC. (Getting the fans to work with AC is going to be tough)

Otherwise I would go with the STS and heatwrap EVERYTHING

 

damn them be fightin words...

 

Well guess your not that experienced afterall....lol, BTW, watch out for speedbumps . Also we sell lift kits if you need one

 

Yup, i know. If I would be purchasing a kit myself i too would have a hard time deciding. Luckily for me my car came with the turbo setup pre-installed so I didn't have to make that choice

The front mounted fans really will not work in the environment that he lives in (same as me). Our summer temps hit 115!!!!

 

Ahh well if the car comes with it, then thats a no brainer...hehe. Use what you pay for

 

yup, working with what I was given. I think i'm into my car for about 18k now including the car. I've added the clutch, intercooler, alcohol and 60 lb injectors since I got it.

 

way to go jose, bashing yet another sponsor here.

 

Wait a minute, don't the f-bods come from the factory with lift kits installed?

 

Bashing...eh ??. I simply answered the question of STS Vs Phamspeed from my perspective. You decided to chime in, and I answered you, how is that bashing??


JR....lol

 

I don't feel like he's bashing... Everything he's said is the truth. I've owned an STS kit and a Phamspeed manifold kit. The STS kit was a nightmare, nothing but problems... everything that could go wrong did, ended up spending an assload of $ that was completely unnecessary... Maybe got $300 out of parting out the STS kit and kept my turbo for the Phamspeed kit. Totally lost my *** on it. I'm currently running Phamspeed manifolds. The setup functions so much better then my STS kit did when it worked. I have bottomed out my Phamspeed kit before with my car lowered, I put the factory springs back in it and it hasn't come close since. My A/C is completely intact and operational with the current kit, I didn't have to sacrifice 1 single thing under the hood! I've noticed a gigantic increase in spool time... blah blah I could go on forever. The fact that I spent my hard earned money working with both kits is good enough to be able to voice my opinion. If you've got a rear mount and it works for you great! If thats your cup of tea, SIP IT UP! I'm just trying to say that it's unecessary. OH! and my favorite part, I spent LESS overall on my Phamspeed kit WITH a large intercooler then I did on my STS kit with the T70 upgrade... WITHOUT the OBX I had to buy seperate, that came dented like a bitch from UPS... nothing but problems.

Bottom line:

My STS kit gave me more problems then I felt like dealing with. GONE

Ground clearance on my Phamspeed manifolds could be better, although it's quality is superb and the price could not be beaten. Please keep in mind that I do not have the budget kit, which would not have to worry about this.

PTK's kit is a better kit. from my standpoint, and the fact that I've never owned one gives me less strength in my opinion, but from what I can tell they have they ducks in a row. It's $$$ though. That was my only problem. But that leads back to the old you get what you pay for thing!

God I wish I could go back in time... if only...

-Andy

 

ummm andy...he was bashing phamspeed in that last post...I could give a **** if he bashs sts. There selling more then him and any other combined..there laughing to the bank. And my STS gave me zero problems...as countless others. Sorry you got bad luck. My phamspeed wont have one clearance issue either. But he took a stab at even phamspeed now.

 

Andy hit the nail on the head. What most don't know is we supply parts to all the customers, whether they are using the STS to Phamspeed, to DIY'ers. So doesn't really make a difference to me what they buy, we will help make the kit they own (whatever its is) better and make you faster. I am just simply stating this, between the 2 kits mentioned, the Phamspeed is better hands down, plain and simple.

 

anything else?

 

I will take a stab at my own kit..... (it costs more money). Their is no sense in crying over this stuff, we are all here just to have fun and go faster. Don't take it personal, I respect your findings and your #'s you made in the past, don't think otherwise.

 

I know dude, I started it out like that but I guess it ended up as my review... I know a lot of people are happy with it, but I never voice my opinion and I guess it just came out in that one post.

How close are you to putting down some numbers with your setup from John Evl?

 

Understood jose...


Andy...I was close until APE decided to go under with my motor and 5k...I have a new one being built as we speak and it will be here in a week or two. Im also waiting on a fuel tank from nasty and some other things but once its all here it will be together very quick. You know how we do it

 

How long has Nate been working on that tank?
It took like 3 months to get my ****.

 

about the same

 

I will own all of you with my homemade T76 383 LT1 setup.

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