Phamspeed VS. STS
05-16-2005, 10:51 PM
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Phamspeed VS. STS Does anyone know which would be better?? I know there are many different factors and am new to the turbo stuff and trying to learn about them. The phamspeed looks to be a nice set-up (and pretty cheap), but I do not like the fact that it uses stock headers because they seem very restrictive. I do like the fact though that the turbo is closer to the engine which yeilds easier oiling and spool. (or so I have read) The STS on the other hand has been proven to haul a$$ and I am able to still use my long tubes which I would think would be better for a turbo, but piping for the intake is very long and seems it would cause some drag. Which would gain most power and where in the RPM band? I was thinking of getting either kit, but would it be cheaper to piece a kit one together? Of course I have a budget in mind and it is a daily driver. I was wanting to run like 5-7PSI daily and hopefully see some good gains from that without causing too much stress on the motor. Also how hard are they to install? I have done some pretty in depth installs, but just never a turbo. What other things would I need besides the basic kit? fuel pump, injectors, ?? Please help me out in a possible summer project...Thanks!!
05-16-2005, 11:06 PM
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I am also at the phase you are. I was considering heads and cam but am begining to think about turbo more and more. I was looking at the Phamspeed budget kit and was wondering what all I would need to get that isn't included in the kit. Last I read though, through search, was that they are on backorder right now until they get moved and caught up on all existing orders.
05-16-2005, 11:10 PM
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Yeah, I am debating on heads right now as I have just put on a LS6 intake and ported TB and I have a pretty mean cam that would have to be changed if I do this whole turbo thing. After looking at some good head prices I am starting to consider this turbo more and more 
05-16-2005, 11:10 PM
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Judging by your questions I would go with the STS kit... not because it functions any better, but for ease of use... Do some searches, I would have to take my shoes off to be able to count the number of threads that looked exactly like this. Most of them got replies that would help you out.
05-16-2005, 11:54 PM
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I'm at this crossroad as well. I was ready to purchase the STS kit, but then I found the phamspeed after doing some research. The STS kit looks like a easier install for the less experienced, but the xtra cash saved with the phamspeed could pay for an install.
05-16-2005, 11:58 PM
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I would like to do it myself as I have done everything so far myself...I am concerned about the extra money being saved, is there any corners that are being cut with the phamspeed? Almost like "to good to be true" as it seems very reasonably priced for the kit.
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05-17-2005, 09:03 AM
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I would like to do it myself as I have done everything so far myself...I am concerned about the extra money being saved, is there any corners that are being cut with the phamspeed? Almost like "to good to be true" as it seems very reasonably priced for the kit.
05-17-2005, 10:11 AM
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The STS kist is just nice and easy to install and live with. Essentially you just bolt on 100-200 horsepower. If you ever need to the kit can come off in 45 minutes and you can put it back to stock.
The phamspeed install is much more involved and I think the finished product isn't quite as show car quality like the STS kit can be.
The phamspeed install is much more involved and I think the finished product isn't quite as show car quality like the STS kit can be.
05-17-2005, 10:35 AM
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Heck any front mount kit will, except the TTI street kit..... 
really cause two sts gtos that are much heavier then any one of your magical cars you post..have gone 10.6 ???? Vids...slips...etc
05-17-2005, 10:43 AM
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1SickWs6, ask yourself what you want to do, all out drag or just nice daily driver. Either will work great as a daily driver, but go phamspeed if you want to drag race.
I can tell you this, in addition to the turbo setup, you will need 42lb/hr injectors minimum (i suggest bigger), a front mount intercooler, alcohol kit and a way to monitor knock.
If you want a ride in my car let me know. I'm pushing 500+
I can tell you this, in addition to the turbo setup, you will need 42lb/hr injectors minimum (i suggest bigger), a front mount intercooler, alcohol kit and a way to monitor knock.
If you want a ride in my car let me know. I'm pushing 500+
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Hmm, I believe the PTK LT1 car that is a few posts down has a slip in there..... Hmm Rick's HPE LT1 car is magical as well right, oh wait there is a video of that one. So much for magical PTK cars.....oh and btw we build mustangs too, not just magical F-body's.....!! I wonder if Tim Lynch and Petty want a rear mounted 106 
?? BTW, as much turbo experience you claim to have you should know by now rear mount< front mount turbo. No need in arguing this anymore.... 
?? BTW, as much turbo experience you claim to have you should know by now rear mount< front mount turbo. No need in arguing this anymore.... 
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Hmm, I believe the PTK LT1 car that is a few posts down has a slip in there..... Hmm Rick's HPE LT1 car is magical as well right, oh wait there is a video of that one. So much for magical PTK cars.....oh and btw we build mustangs too, not just magical F-body's.....!! I wonder if Tim Lynch and Petty want a rear mounted 106 ?? BTW, as much turbo experience you claim to have you should know by now rear mount< front mount turbo. No need in arguing this anymore....
?? BTW, as much turbo experience you claim to have you should know by now rear mount< front mount turbo. No need in arguing this anymore....