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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:22 PM
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Does anyone know where you can go to look at an intercooler that actually lists a price instead of just the core # and specs?

Ive been looking around and I cant ever find the two combined, its either price adn no real info, or its all the info youd want and no price.????

From looking around I am guessing that with these you need to buy the cores and have the end tanks made or what is the deal?
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:25 PM
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LS1speed has em for camaros or birds
http://www.ls1speed.com/catagory.cfm...ed%20Induction
Very bottom of the page

Kinda pricey tho....
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:29 PM
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those are the griffen A2A ones though

im looking for A2W
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:31 PM
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DOH! Sorry bout that, just read intercoolers, no mention of A2W
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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 06:32 PM
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We make custom IC's as well. And well sell the Water to Air unit that is used on our F-body kits. Its made to handle 1200+ hp though.

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Old Jun 21, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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Jose,
Please send me pricing
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 08:55 AM
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i ran into the same problem.
one of the biggest manufacturers for A2W ICs would be precision, seems thats were most people got them from.
finding specs were very hard, this is about the best i could find
im not sure if these prices still hold true or not, probably not
450hp - $550.00
900hp - $850.00
1200hp - $1100.00
1800hp - $1650.00
2400hp - $2200.00

The cores used for the

450hp is 10 x 4.5 x 4.5 (one used)

900hp uses the same but use 2

1200hp uses a 12 x 13.5 x 6

1800hp uses the 10 x 4.5 x 4.5 cores but uses 4

the 2400hp uses 3 of the 12 x 13.5 x 6 I belieave..

so add 3 to 4 inches to each side of the cores and you have the cooler size..
Hope helps in size questions..
another place you could try to contact is bell intercoolers, they could give you a quote, griffin might also be able to make you one.
I worked with Griffin and bought some cores to make one, if i could have found a cheaper place for aluminum sheets it would have been cheaper, but i probably have $600 in the one im making, oh and a WHOLE lot of labor, cause i cut the aluminum out with a jigsaw and welded it my self, still not even done yet.
it should support about 900-1000RWHP, going by area
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:05 AM
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Is it just me or are they rediculously expensive? I know Spearco cores are affordable... are A2A and A2W cores the same? I can see why you're making your own... $2200 will damn near buy you a forged shortblock!!!!!

Originally Posted by smokinHawk
i ran into the same problem.
one of the biggest manufacturers for A2W ICs would be precision, seems thats were most people got them from.
finding specs were very hard, this is about the best i could find
im not sure if these prices still hold true or not, probably not

another place you could try to contact is bell intercoolers, they could give you a quote, griffin might also be able to make you one.
I worked with Griffin and bought some cores to make one, if i could have found a cheaper place for aluminum sheets it would have been cheaper, but i probably have $600 in the one im making, oh and a WHOLE lot of labor, cause i cut the aluminum out with a jigsaw and welded it my self, still not even done yet.
it should support about 900-1000RWHP, going by area
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main reason there so expensive is the labor to weld them up, or even cut them out.
i probably have 30 hours in mine so far.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by FastKat
Is it just me or are they rediculously expensive? I know Spearco cores are affordable... are A2A and A2W cores the same? I can see why you're making your own... $2200 will damn near buy you a forged shortblock!!!!!
The cores run about the same price but like mentioned the labor is about double. Not only do you have to make end tanks but also cap the water side and weld on water in/outlets. Don't even get me started on how much heat it takes to get that big chunk of aluminum up to temp before welding.

If you want the absolute lowest IATs in your daily driver A2W is the only way to go. Sure you can do a FMIC and spray water/alcohol injection but you'll constantly be filling that thing and if it runs out while you're on high boost outside of town.....well you know.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 11:46 AM
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Originally Posted by METAL MAN
The cores run about the same price but like mentioned the labor is about double. Not only do you have to make end tanks but also cap the water side and weld on water in/outlets. Don't even get me started on how much heat it takes to get that big chunk of aluminum up to temp before welding.

If you want the absolute lowest IATs in your daily driver A2W is the only way to go. Sure you can do a FMIC and spray water/alcohol injection but you'll constantly be filling that thing and if it runs out while you're on high boost outside of town.....well you know.

Yeah, but to cool stuff down some and not go through the cost (as long as you aren't CONSTANTLY) @ full throttle you shouldn't be having that much of a problem and for when you do need a full throttle run, that's what a progressive alky/meth/h2o setup is for right? What about the A2W2A that the TTi Race kit uses? Obviously it works for MM.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:15 PM
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I confess, I've never welded aluminum before so I don't know too much about it. I always knew it required a good deal of practice but never even thought about trying it.

There is someone on eBay that has bar and plate intercooler cores dirt cheap.. Check them out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
If that doesn't work, eBay item number is 7982621102

I know end tanks aren't too too expensive either. I was looking at some the other day and they were looking around $45-$50 per tank.

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The cores run about the same price but like mentioned the labor is about double. Not only do you have to make end tanks but also cap the water side and weld on water in/outlets. Don't even get me started on how much heat it takes to get that big chunk of aluminum up to temp before welding.

If you want the absolute lowest IATs in your daily driver A2W is the only way to go. Sure you can do a FMIC and spray water/alcohol injection but you'll constantly be filling that thing and if it runs out while you're on high boost outside of town.....well you know.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 01:29 PM
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Originally Posted by FastKat
I confess, I've never welded aluminum before so I don't know too much about it. I always knew it required a good deal of practice but never even thought about trying it.

There is someone on eBay that has bar and plate intercooler cores dirt cheap.. Check them out...
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...sPageName=WDVW
If that doesn't work, eBay item number is 7982621102

I know end tanks aren't too too expensive either. I was looking at some the other day and they were looking around $45-$50 per tank.
Welding aluminum is harder than welding any other metal with the exception of some of the more exotic metals. You'll need a TIG that has an AC setting and allot of experience or you could do it with a MIG but you'll need at least a 200amp machine with a spool gun. The later will not look nearly as nice as a TIG welded unit.

Those cores really aren't that cheap considering they have to be welded together to make much of anything and then there still only 6" tall.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 02:28 PM
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You can weld aluminum with oxy-acetylene too. It suprises me how much this welding method gets neglected considering how cost effective it is to get into and how many applications it has.
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Ed our W2A IC is $1299. Its made for the F-body and bolts in the front. The unit is rated 1200+hp.










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You could always fab it up and send it out to be welded. Just make sure you have no gaps at all. If you cannot find anyone local for a good price I weld aluminum, stainless or whatever you need, if interested P.M. me.
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Jpse,
is that just the intercooler?
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Yes that is just the IC as you see it above. We pressure test all our cores. We don't use any cheap junk and we don't use air to air converted cores.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:18 PM
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Jose,
I have another question, the flow #'s that you have listed on your site, and then the hp ratings below dont match up. The parts #'s that go with the specs and prices are there, and then below where you say what each part will support HP wise the part numbers are not the same.
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Old Jun 22, 2005 | 04:22 PM
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Originally Posted by Dustin Mustangs
You can weld aluminum with oxy-acetylene too. It suprises me how much this welding method gets neglected considering how cost effective it is to get into and how many applications it has.
Yup you sure can but it comes out like crap. I learned how to weld doing Oxy-acetylene back in the day. Great way to learn but crappy way to weld much of anything. Very slow, massive amounts of heat damage if you're not extremely careful/good and almost impossible to weld anything other than mild steel without a lot of experience. With the price of basic MIGs these days there's no reason to go down that road. Like mentioned above, if you can't/ don't know how to weld aluminum make the stuff if you want and send to a person like myself or another alum. fabricator. You'll save yourself one expensive core and it'll look great when it's done.

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