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what to use i have been searching around the fi kits. i have thouroughly been serching the vortech and ati. Along with the sts and the phamespeed kit as well. I am going to be running a completely stock engine. I only have the slp lid and the loudmouth cat back as of right know. What could i run on this set up and have the best reliability(this is a daily driver) and still have that head pinned to the back of your seat feeling. I know there is a lot of biased opinions on running boost on these vehicles from stock. But. There is just to many people who are running the fi and not having probs. Except the people ho run there fi cars without getting it tuned(not so smart). Any input would be appreciated. Also yes i know i can get a head and cam kit for less and still be killing it and have good driveability.
for ultimate drivability go turbo cause when your under boost then its like the car is stock.i have a phamspeed kit and the quality of the kit is superb.it comes with everything down to the nuts and bolts,and you dont have to worry about sucking water like the STS kit that some peopl fear.if you wanted to you could get a set of LQ9 heads to drop the compression and get a Phamspeed kit,run about 10psi with a safe tune and make 500+rwhp with NO issues if you do it right.just my 2 cents
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yeah i started out wanting to sneak up on unsespecting foreign cars but once i did the exhaust i said hell with it. I have heard very little about the phamespeed kit but would be interested in the price and about how much it would cost to get put in. I am not to worried about sucking up water. I saw a thread of them taking it through some nasty muddy and wet off road places and almost trapping a tacoma and it never sucked in any water because of the precharger. SO if i can get the info on that kit i would appreciate that and thanks for the input. I used to have a gtp and i just miss the power of booooooooost.
and theres another thread of 2 guys sucking up water.....1 was ok after DUMPING out water from his tubes and the other motor seized....no more motor for him.theres a member,i think his name is something like 99ss-t or something who just posted #'s on a stock motor....something in the neighborhood of 540rwhp at 10psi.look for LT1-7 who is John Pham and he has the phone nnumber for Phamspeed,tell him i sent you and he'll take care of you.
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yeah so i have heard. i know a ton of people who are running around 500 without having any tranny trouble. But that is not to say it wont happen to me. So that is why i have waited so long to do any real upgrades. i will investigate more with pham and see what kind of response they have had with the autos. Also how much would it cost you think to put the turbo 400 in it. They are cheaper to fix and are i believe more reliable.
honestly i dont know about them,all i know is i have a friend whose gone through his 3rd i believe turbo 400,too much damn power,lol.i am selling a set of injectors if you need a set,which you will since your going FI.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
and theres another thread of 2 guys sucking up water.....1 was ok after DUMPING out water from his tubes and the other motor seized....no more motor for him.theres a member,i think his name is something like 99ss-t or something who just posted #'s on a stock motor....something in the neighborhood of 540rwhp at 10psi.look for LT1-7 who is John Pham and he has the phone nnumber for Phamspeed,tell him i sent you and he'll take care of you.
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i took a look at that kit for the budget minded people and was impressed with the price. As i can see you can upgrade it with the other parts when needed. I am just looking to go low 12's. With slicks and some tricks i have grasping maybe a high 11 eventually.(when i get a spare car
But would be very happy with a mid to low 12. My buddy thinks i am just going to blow the motor up if i go with the turbo or blower. So i asked him about a cam package i was looking at 233/234 591/594 112 I believe these were the numbers or really close. He said it would be to much. But he is not the most geneious person either. All he did with his cobra is break halfshafts. So that is why i ask you guys because you have seen the kits in action on yours or a friends car and know what is going on. I am new to the ls1 world and most show gatherings by me i know about just kinda frown on the car i have. So i am open to suggestions to those who have experiances. Thanks for the input and keep it comin.
But would be very happy with a mid to low 12. My buddy thinks i am just going to blow the motor up if i go with the turbo or blower. So i asked him about a cam package i was looking at 233/234 591/594 112 I believe these were the numbers or really close. He said it would be to much. But he is not the most geneious person either. All he did with his cobra is break halfshafts. So that is why i ask you guys because you have seen the kits in action on yours or a friends car and know what is going on. I am new to the ls1 world and most show gatherings by me i know about just kinda frown on the car i have. So i am open to suggestions to those who have experiances. Thanks for the input and keep it comin. 
I know you said that you didnt want to do ao head and cam swpa but if you are lookin for mid to low 12's then you really are jsut throwing money away by getting a turbo kit UNLESS you have future plans on going faster. Most people here will tell ya that 500 is about all teh power ya wanna make and not have to worry bout the engine every other second. I put a turbo on mine and the price is good for the phamspeed kit BUT there is other **** that ya have to get. I had to get new radiator fans, fuel injectors, fuel pump, and alot of other misc ****. The turbo is VERY sweet but im about 7k in the whole jsut for the kit and accessories needed to make it work. I didnt get the budget kit so you are lookin about 1k less then i spent but the **** just keeps piling up.
I dont wanna scare ya away from FI but you can go low 12's on a cam and heads with ease. And save about 3k. GL man!
John
I dont wanna scare ya away from FI but you can go low 12's on a cam and heads with ease. And save about 3k. GL man!
John
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well horse power enginers has the big box of goodies package i was looking at for 3395 which isn't bad for everything that is in it. For 800 i can have it installed and tuned. Almost the same for a 5psi sts installed and tuned.4500. I am not scared just trying to find the easiest bolt on kit. sts is sweet and so is the heads and cam. I am mainly worried about the transmission. I may only drag this car a couple times a month if that. Mainly cruising and some playing nothing hard. So i am just looking at suggestions and commentary of what people have went through. Biase is alright. But like others have said it is your vehicle do what you want and i will.
Well a FI puts a ton of torque pressure on the driveline. So if you have a stock rear you will have issues real soon. A heads and cam package would have a good am of power but mostly up high. Which is alot easier on those parts then 500 ft/lbs at 4000 rpm. Not to say that heads and cam aint gonna break stuff but it will take a while longer. I hope ya get a turbo setup man but the cost is substancial(sp) GL
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
no he had the STS kit...
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthrea...ts+hydrolocked
The thread is about STS, but his hydrolock was done NA (he just asked in the thread instead of starting a new one). If that's not the one you were talking about, gotta link? I'd be interested in reading it, I haven't heard of an STS getting hydrolocked yet with the exception of a truck that was under full boost through a big puddle - and that's bad news anyway with several turbo/blower kits.
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
sorry my fault,yes thats the thread,his WAS na but musicmaker1586 did end up dumping water out.
It happens to ATI guys too, and a few NA guys running the CAI kits. I know one of the STS guys came in and mentioned a shield for the filter that would prevent it for F-Bodies (they already have a snorkel system for the GTO), but I figured that was "just in case, better safe than sorry." I'm running an STS with no problem with rain, but I was curious if you'd heard of an actual hydrolock situation, if so it would be something I'd need to look into