I have my factory ECU working as a 2 step
#21
DOn't cars like Sunfires/Cavaliers have that stock? If you try to rev with the AUTO in neutral it will stop at 4k and with clutch in in manuals at around that RPM? Same thing I think.
#22
Originally Posted by frcefed98
Nope car pulls through the brakes with no problem, no boost built at all. Brakes are brand new as are the rotors. I have a Vigilante 3800 stall, and I'd thought brake boosting would be cake with it, but nope...car just pulls through its brakes and E brake too
#25
I was thinking about doing this on my a4 gto. Maybe a few of us slushbox guys can put our heads together here. We should have a switch with wiring that tells the computer when the car is in park or neutral. Here is how I see this happening. Tap into the wire that tells the pcm we are in neutral/park. Use 2 switches, like a nitrous setup. One to activate the 2 step, and one to release it. You put a wot switch from a nitrous kit under the brake pedal. So, you do your burnout, and pull up to the line. Flip the "arm" switch, and stand on the brake. This contacts the "wot" switch, and makes the car think it is in park/neutral. Once you release the brake, the car thinks it is in gear again, and your limiter is released. This would be a good thing, as you eliminate the time to floor the go pedal. However, after sharing this with a friend, he said the computer may not be happy with this, as it will think you are doing a "neutral drop". Just my .02
#27
So let me get this straight.....
If the clutch is IN and the car is NOT moving (0 mph reading on the speedo), the car will bounce on the 2-step.
If the car is moving and the clutch is in, it will rev freely to any desired rpm until you hit the rev limiter.
I wanted to clarify this since I was leary of rev matching to a lower gear and hitting the 2-step instead.
If the clutch is IN and the car is NOT moving (0 mph reading on the speedo), the car will bounce on the 2-step.
If the car is moving and the clutch is in, it will rev freely to any desired rpm until you hit the rev limiter.
I wanted to clarify this since I was leary of rev matching to a lower gear and hitting the 2-step instead.
#28
Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
So let me get this straight.....
If the clutch is IN and the car is NOT moving (0 mph reading on the speedo), the car will bounce on the 2-step.
If the car is moving and the clutch is in, it will rev freely to any desired rpm until you hit the rev limiter.
I wanted to clarify this since I was leary of rev matching to a lower gear and hitting the 2-step instead.
If the clutch is IN and the car is NOT moving (0 mph reading on the speedo), the car will bounce on the 2-step.
If the car is moving and the clutch is in, it will rev freely to any desired rpm until you hit the rev limiter.
I wanted to clarify this since I was leary of rev matching to a lower gear and hitting the 2-step instead.
#30
Originally Posted by Zombie
In both situations it will be on the 2 step limiter. Only time the 2 step limiter is not engaged is when you are moving with the clutch out.
#31
Originally Posted by Mike 01WS6
So you're basically fucked if you want to downshift from 4th gear at 50mph to 2nd gear.
Besides, you don't have to keep the 2 step feature in, you can program it out for daily driving and just put it in for the track.
#34
Originally Posted by Zombie
...I just figured this out tonight so I have not been able to go to the track.
Hope this info helps some others. It really lets me concentrate on the launch and they have been much harder than before.
I just figured this out tonight
Hope this info helps some others. It really lets me concentrate on the launch and they have been much harder than before.
I just figured this out tonight
#35
so is this all theory or what?
because ive gone thru this twice before now.. on a manual, the car ALWAYS thinks its in 4th gear... it never goes to "neutral".., so it never comes on.
because ive gone thru this twice before now.. on a manual, the car ALWAYS thinks its in 4th gear... it never goes to "neutral".., so it never comes on.
#36
Originally Posted by Fran D
Zombie, have you ever had the opportunity to see if there was an improvement on launch (consistency or otherwise) at the track?
I'll have something better than a 2 step in a month or so.... trans brake and n2o
#38
Originally Posted by Spenser309
what about putting in the clutch while switching gears? Wouldnt it cut fuel in between gears?
If you're speed shifting, though, it's not too much different (once again, I'm guessing) than running up against the limiter at the higher limit. It's just the set point is lower.
#39
having it come on at the wrong time isnt a issue.
you could always change the switch to be something that only happens on launch
the key here is to have a input (wire to the PCM) that will enable this "two step" feature when on.
once you have that you're set... the rest can be done several ways.
you could always change the switch to be something that only happens on launch
the key here is to have a input (wire to the PCM) that will enable this "two step" feature when on.
once you have that you're set... the rest can be done several ways.