Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

Twins for a LS1, on a budget

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:01 PM
  #1  
Sandmann120's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
From: SW Iowa
Default Twins for a LS1, on a budget

I just got off the phone with a local diesel supply shop, and it looks as though we will be building a twin turbo kit for my Z28 using turbos supplied by them. I was originally looking at running twin HY or HX 35 Holsets, but it looks as though we might run a pair of TO4s instead. The guy I talked to said that he is going to do some research and get back to me about what all he can get ahold of, and what will work out the best for my setup. What do the turbo gurus recommend for this setup? I intend to run a set of 6.0 manifolds, and external wastegates, although he suggested looking into running an internally-gated turbo to eliminate that hassle. I do not intend to run large boost numbers at this time, so I am wondering about the internal gate's ability to control the boost at a small level without creeping. I would prefer a V-band clamp for the downpipe, and he pointed out that most TO4s come with a 4-bolt flange instead. Also, this will be A/W intercooled, and I intend to run this whole setup at about 10-12 PSI on the stock shortblock for now, albiet with a set of ported 6.0 heads in place of the stock ones. Any advise on this adventure would be much appreciated.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:21 PM
  #2  
99SS-T's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
20 Year Member
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,005
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix AZ
Default

If 10-12 PSI is the lowest ya are gonna wanna go then internal gates will be just fine. Restricting PSI with twins is alot easier as ya have 2 gates and hte turbos are smaller then a big single. I dunno how low you would be able to go but i wouldnt doubt 8 or lower would be acheivable. GL


John
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:25 PM
  #3  
Sandmann120's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
From: SW Iowa
Default

Thanks, that is definitally something I will think about.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 04:48 PM
  #4  
Hugger's Avatar
10 Second Club
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Nov 2001
Posts: 728
Likes: 1
From: Olive Branch MS/Memphis
Default

Let us know how it turns out. I am also interested in a "budget" turbo setup, just a single though. Anyway I ran the numbers and it was going to be an expensive endeavor no matter how I figured it. I am just going to wait right now and do a turbo down the road. Good luck with your setup. Can't wait to see it
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 07:05 PM
  #5  
smokinHawk's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
iTrader: (48)
 
Joined: Jan 2002
Posts: 7,354
Likes: 1
From: Columbus, ohio
Default

id get a turbo right your application.
try www.forcedinductions.com they can help select a turbo for your needs in your budjet range, think they have some low cost masterpower turbos that could work for you or precisions.
also if youron a budet do and air to air as air 2 water will have more cost in it.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 10:38 PM
  #6  
METAL MAN's Avatar
Launching!
 
Joined: Apr 2003
Posts: 243
Likes: 0
From: Phoenix, AZ.
Default

Budget and turbo don't go very well together.
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 11:11 PM
  #7  
Boostaholic's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
From: Boise, ID
Default

Originally Posted by METAL MAN
Budget and turbo don't go very well together.

Budget and TWIN TURBO go together even worse
Reply
Old Aug 30, 2005 | 11:26 PM
  #8  
69firebird's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (14)
 
Joined: Nov 2002
Posts: 2,560
Likes: 0
From: hurst tx
Default

I think thre is a different between budget, and trying to save where you can
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 12:13 AM
  #9  
NA$TY-TA's Avatar
TECH Senior Member
20 Year Member
iTrader: (21)
 
Joined: Aug 2002
Posts: 10,331
Likes: 1
From: San Antonio, TX
Default

In the end be prepared to spend alot of $$$$$ its not the kit you should be worried about.... its the other LIl stuff.... it adds up fast.. i know...
Kyle
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 12:41 AM
  #10  
Sandmann120's Avatar
Thread Starter
TECH Fanatic
15 Year Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 1,015
Likes: 0
From: SW Iowa
Default

I've been putting a lot of thought into this 'kit' for sometime now. I relaize it won't really be cheap, I just don't want to get out of control. As far as the intercooler goes, I may in fact go with A/A, but i have intentions of at least eventually moving into a A/W setup. The diesel guy and I still have a lot of research to do before any of this even begins to get screwed together. I guess I just have a real intereest in doing things myself. Please keep the suggestions coming as far as part selection goes.
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 12:58 AM
  #11  
LTLHOMER's Avatar
8 Second Club
iTrader: (10)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 1,522
Likes: 0
From: Metro Detroit
Default

Just spend the money on a good set of heads and a nice shaft and forget the turbo garbage...no point in spending the same money to go just as fast with ten times the complexity...turbos are nice if you're really going after it...but for a mild setup like you want, just get a nice top end setup and call it a day.
Reply
Old Aug 31, 2005 | 03:01 AM
  #12  
Boostaholic's Avatar
TECH Addict
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 2,542
Likes: 0
From: Boise, ID
Default

Originally Posted by LTLHOMER
Just spend the money on a good set of heads and a nice shaft and forget the turbo garbage...no point in spending the same money to go just as fast with ten times the complexity...turbos are nice if you're really going after it...but for a mild setup like you want, just get a nice top end setup and call it a day.
I don't really agree with this either, I just think twins are a bad idea.

If I was doing it again, starting from a stockish LS1 and turboing it on a buget I would make a crossover pipe that connects the stock manifolds and runs up to a proper size single turbo, get a tial Wastegate and BOV with a ebay A2A intercooler.

After that, all you really need is some high-z injectors, tuning, 2 bar map, few other things.
Reply
Old Sep 1, 2005 | 06:32 PM
  #13  
bumpin_records's Avatar
TECH Resident
iTrader: (19)
 
Joined: Jan 2004
Posts: 802
Likes: 2
From: chicago
Default

Originally Posted by Boostaholic
Budget and TWIN TURBO go together even worse
he is not lying about that you need 2 of everything. plan to spend some big money
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 06:38 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE