*engine pics*...when you play with fire...
Thread Starter
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From: Virginia
i dont know that the budget allows for upgrades yet
the word was that the block's not looking good, don't know if useable yet
i know they can do a good job repairing the head, im not worried about that, yea race gas anything over 16# is what i'm thinking
i would love to do the crank, ls2 block, and the cam swap from the other post but i know i can't swing all 3.
thanks todd, ill relay that message.. i know i don't have too much room on the fuel system..but it all did check out before i raced it... and as far as AFR the target was about 10.7:1
the motor was @ 8:1, timing (with no spark retard) was set at 18, intake temps would have been around 90*
it sounded like the crank and the rods looked ok, but were going in to get checked out anyway.
the runs weren't at 16psi, they were at 22, and i was probably making over 900 something at the tires, can't really say. all i can say about the rest is that doing one pull on the dyno and a couple gears on the street is completely different than a full 1/4 pass as far as piston temperature goes... obviously... i was one of them.
jim, i use visa, and thank goodness my engine didn't run my anywhere near 10k... but i am fully understanding of your point.... now
the word was that the block's not looking good, don't know if useable yet
i know they can do a good job repairing the head, im not worried about that, yea race gas anything over 16# is what i'm thinking
i would love to do the crank, ls2 block, and the cam swap from the other post but i know i can't swing all 3.
thanks todd, ill relay that message.. i know i don't have too much room on the fuel system..but it all did check out before i raced it... and as far as AFR the target was about 10.7:1
the motor was @ 8:1, timing (with no spark retard) was set at 18, intake temps would have been around 90*
it sounded like the crank and the rods looked ok, but were going in to get checked out anyway.
the runs weren't at 16psi, they were at 22, and i was probably making over 900 something at the tires, can't really say. all i can say about the rest is that doing one pull on the dyno and a couple gears on the street is completely different than a full 1/4 pass as far as piston temperature goes... obviously... i was one of them.
jim, i use visa, and thank goodness my engine didn't run my anywhere near 10k... but i am fully understanding of your point.... now
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Time to upgrade your BS3 to staged injection?
Best of both worlds. Cruise on 93 octane with race fuel on demand.
-edit- Now that I think about it, getting 16 injectors in an LS1 intake would be tough. Probably have to go to sheetmetal.
Best of both worlds. Cruise on 93 octane with race fuel on demand.
-edit- Now that I think about it, getting 16 injectors in an LS1 intake would be tough. Probably have to go to sheetmetal.
Originally Posted by INTMD8
110 octane race fuel- $4.00 gal
93 octane pump gas- $3.00 gal
Burning down your 10,000 dollar engine to save $1 a gal, Priceless.
Some things, money can't buy, for everything else, theres Mastercard.
93 octane pump gas- $3.00 gal
Burning down your 10,000 dollar engine to save $1 a gal, Priceless.
Some things, money can't buy, for everything else, theres Mastercard.
No prob man...you might also consider an FJO wideband setup with dual channel option and run a wideband sensor for each side. There may be a way you can set it up to control boost or decrease boost if the A/F starts getting lean. I nkow the TT kit basically runs on a single exahust set up, so not really sure what a good option is.
Does BS3 not have the option to monitor A/F and control boost with A/F as a criteria?
Does BS3 not have the option to monitor A/F and control boost with A/F as a criteria?
MightyMouse, you did the top of the rod bearings have any signs detonation? That damage looks like sustained detonation, not just getting it hot. I've killed a motor on my supra due to sustained detonation and that was what it looked like. The bearings usually tell the story though.
Sorry to see it happen man. Thank you for posting the pics though.
Sorry to see it happen man. Thank you for posting the pics though.
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From: Virginia
ya i would love to have a separate 'WOT' race gas tank.. the implementation i have to work on.
thanks john, im accepting donations on deezuns@paypal.com
reckless, i was told to not put o2 sensors before the turbo, so i have my one after... another good idea i will forward to john is about moving boost with AFR but i don't recall it.
zombie, what you see is what i see.. from what kurt told me the bearings looked like they were 'ok' and then had peices of pistons sent across them... so maybe that is more like a lean situation then detonation?
thanks john, im accepting donations on deezuns@paypal.com
reckless, i was told to not put o2 sensors before the turbo, so i have my one after... another good idea i will forward to john is about moving boost with AFR but i don't recall it.
zombie, what you see is what i see.. from what kurt told me the bearings looked like they were 'ok' and then had peices of pistons sent across them... so maybe that is more like a lean situation then detonation?
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Originally Posted by INTMD8
110 octane race fuel- $4.00 gal
93 octane pump gas- $3.00 gal
Burning down your 10,000 dollar engine to save $1 a gal, Priceless.
Some things, money can't buy, for everything else, theres Mastercard.
93 octane pump gas- $3.00 gal
Burning down your 10,000 dollar engine to save $1 a gal, Priceless.
Some things, money can't buy, for everything else, theres Mastercard.
Good quote. Best of luck Dave. Once your new beast get buttoned up you will be better than ever. Good luck
Andy
A friend of mine (wolverine-sure you've heard of him) recommended to me to NOT run methanol cause he said when you're detonating you cannot tell. He said he melted all 8 forged pistons. net loss approx $7000.00
Sorry d00d....
I heard that there was video of the offending incident...
....but it went missing.
I'm about to have alot more free time... let me know if I can help at all.
I heard that there was video of the offending incident...
....but it went missing.
I'm about to have alot more free time... let me know if I can help at all.
Last edited by Frost; Sep 27, 2005 at 07:23 PM.
Originally Posted by Got Me SOM
A friend of mine (wolverine-sure you've heard of him) recommended to me to NOT run methanol cause he said when you're detonating you cannot tell. He said he melted all 8 forged pistons. net loss approx $7000.00
Dave, I'm sure W2W will get ya fixed up in no time. Good luck.
The extent of the damage to me, looks like it was really lean or the meth ran out. I don't know what the sitiation was, but that looks like a motor would after trying to run 22 psi on only pumpgas. That sucks, good luck man.
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From: Virginia
Originally Posted by KissMySSo1
you must have went lean. My car is making about 800 on straight 93 octain and my pistons look perfect.
steve, if you got video you want to post, then post it.... but make sure you put the good run on this video too so it wont be all bad.