Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP?
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Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? I talked with a shop today that put another model scavenge pump on a customers car a year ago and has not had a single issue.
My first one had a bad seal, the one I have now is leaking like a sieve and I'm ready to go to something else.
395 is the normal cost, no idea on the GP cost but I'd like to gauge some interest, bolt up and go.
My first one had a bad seal, the one I have now is leaking like a sieve and I'm ready to go to something else.
395 is the normal cost, no idea on the GP cost but I'd like to gauge some interest, bolt up and go.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? Didn't tell me what kind of pump. Incon refered me to them and according to the guy its quieter than the Incon pump.
Harlan is going dry sump which requires removal of the A/C.
They did talk to LPE to see if they'd make additional mechanical pumps for F car users but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
Harlan is going dry sump which requires removal of the A/C.
They did talk to LPE to see if they'd make additional mechanical pumps for F car users but I'm not holding my breath on that one.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? Turbo connections has one for about $320, thank its made in Italy. Weldon sells one also but it says it pumps about 30 gpm (it might pump less) and costs $470, thinks its a model 9200, but check. Harlans is a special designed razorperformance dry sump pump and you have to loose your A/C.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? I talked with harlan a couple of weeks ago, his pump is custom one, not the one that is used by asa or c5r. The one he got is actually a lot smaller than either of those.
What type of pump is the turbo connections one, I would assume a flexible impeller type, but just wanted to make sure?
Gary
What type of pump is the turbo connections one, I would assume a flexible impeller type, but just wanted to make sure?
Gary
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? I'm very interested. I was just about to get one of those anyway. Especially if its quieter. Contact me directly if you need to.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? I have a Tilton I may be selling soon, if anyone is interested.. I'll most likely be asking ~ $275. It's been installed for about 4 months, with ~ 10k miles. Works like a champ. This is one of the recent pumps, and no problems. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
edit; I'm probably going to sell it because I really don't need it. I have a T-60 setup, and I bought it for insurance.. and it looks like the singles don't really need it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: magnux ]</small>
edit; I'm probably going to sell it because I really don't need it. I have a T-60 setup, and I bought it for insurance.. and it looks like the singles don't really need it. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
<small>[ April 25, 2002, 05:54 PM: Message edited by: magnux ]</small>
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by NoOne:
<strong>normal cost, no idea on the GP cost but I'd like to gauge some interest, bolt up and go.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great I paid over $6k for a TT kit and the pump will take a **** on me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
I guess I am in on the GP.
<strong>normal cost, no idea on the GP cost but I'd like to gauge some interest, bolt up and go.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Great I paid over $6k for a TT kit and the pump will take a **** on me. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
I guess I am in on the GP.
Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? I've got a tilton pump too.
It came with my used single T-76 kit, but i dont think im gonna use it.
If some one wants it drop me a PM
It came with my used single T-76 kit, but i dont think im gonna use it.
If some one wants it drop me a PM
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? Magnux, the tilton pump is what we already have on the Incon TT. I would be in but dont have any cash at this time, plus still dont have all the Incon kit. Been getting a trickle of parts over the last few months, but still need a couple more.
I try the tilton first then, see about replacing it if necessary. I have a inline filter between turbo and pump, plus the new setup does not have scavenge tanks. Also my setup is totally different than the stock Incon in that I will be returning the oil back through the oil level sensor port.
Gary
I try the tilton first then, see about replacing it if necessary. I have a inline filter between turbo and pump, plus the new setup does not have scavenge tanks. Also my setup is totally different than the stock Incon in that I will be returning the oil back through the oil level sensor port.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by magnux:
<strong>I have a Tilton I may be selling soon, if anyone is interested.. I'll most likely be asking ~ $275. It's been installed for about 4 months, with ~ 10k miles. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And good luck to you. I honestly thought about making you an offer for that one. I already have the bracket and fittings, and it would just be a bolt-in. But what I would be willing to offer kept falling the more I pondered it - to the point where any offer would be insulting.
Is it me, or does it seem to be affected by cold weather? I have noticed an increase in the oil smell (leaking) after a cold snap. 4 weeks ago it was 10F in the morning, and the pump refused to pump oil. The next day it was fine.
Anyway, my last cleaning did not seem to work, so I'll be ordering the Turbo Connections one soon. If this is going to happen, I need to know before Monday afternoon. Thats when I'll call.
<strong>I have a Tilton I may be selling soon, if anyone is interested.. I'll most likely be asking ~ $275. It's been installed for about 4 months, with ~ 10k miles. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">And good luck to you. I honestly thought about making you an offer for that one. I already have the bracket and fittings, and it would just be a bolt-in. But what I would be willing to offer kept falling the more I pondered it - to the point where any offer would be insulting.
Is it me, or does it seem to be affected by cold weather? I have noticed an increase in the oil smell (leaking) after a cold snap. 4 weeks ago it was 10F in the morning, and the pump refused to pump oil. The next day it was fine.
Anyway, my last cleaning did not seem to work, so I'll be ordering the Turbo Connections one soon. If this is going to happen, I need to know before Monday afternoon. Thats when I'll call.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? I'll call the guy back on Monday and get a price on 5 units.
I would not buy another Tilton pump for this application, they will not continue to work reliably for everyone.
I'm not saying yours will fail, it may not, but the reliability of the pumps is no where near 100 percent, more like 65-70.
This post was for those who have already played Pump-Go-Round <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
I would not buy another Tilton pump for this application, they will not continue to work reliably for everyone.
I'm not saying yours will fail, it may not, but the reliability of the pumps is no where near 100 percent, more like 65-70.
This post was for those who have already played Pump-Go-Round <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? What pump came stock with the incon kit? Did it have a plastic pump assembly or brass?
The plastic ones will melt the screw inside with the hot oil and eventually fail.
The plastic ones will melt the screw inside with the hot oil and eventually fail.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? A tilton/flowjet pump comes with the Incon kit, it has a plastic pump assembly. It does not have a problem with melting (that I know of) and uses viton seals.
I dont think anybody has gone through all the broken pumps to see what the failure mode is. I do failure analysis of valves and other components at work and on most things its a very simple problem. If everyone could post what failures you are having, this would include leaks, not pumping, etc. Also if you guys could remove the two bolts and look inside at the check valve, cam, diaphragm(spelling), seal and see if anything looks damaged. This would greatly help fix the problem.
Gary
<small>[ April 28, 2002, 01:37 PM: Message edited by: red ws6 99 ]</small>
I dont think anybody has gone through all the broken pumps to see what the failure mode is. I do failure analysis of valves and other components at work and on most things its a very simple problem. If everyone could post what failures you are having, this would include leaks, not pumping, etc. Also if you guys could remove the two bolts and look inside at the check valve, cam, diaphragm(spelling), seal and see if anything looks damaged. This would greatly help fix the problem.
Gary
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? Just a picture should work. There is not really that much that can break in these. It has to be heat or contamination related. I have run mine for hours on end with water with not so much as a leak.
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Re: Interest in a Working Scavenge pump GP? Wow, I just can't believe so many of you guys are having problems with the pumps. I had no idea it was such a widespread thing. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" />
Like I said, I got one of the most recent ones (which I was informed lacked the flaws of prior ones). I really don't know much about the problems people are encountering, my kit didn't come with one (T-60 Turbo Tech), but I picked one up for safety. Later, I found out the Turbo Tech kits didn't need the scavenge pumps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
For as long as I've had it, it's worked great. I'm not a big fan of the extra noise it introduces, but you have to pay to play -- right? Heh. It hasn't leaked a drop, or even given me the slightest hint it had a problem.
Welp, best of luck. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Like I said, if anyone is interested in my pump just make me an offer, you can email me at magnus@laker.net or PM me. Otherwise, it's just going to collect dust. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />
Like I said, I got one of the most recent ones (which I was informed lacked the flaws of prior ones). I really don't know much about the problems people are encountering, my kit didn't come with one (T-60 Turbo Tech), but I picked one up for safety. Later, I found out the Turbo Tech kits didn't need the scavenge pumps. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
For as long as I've had it, it's worked great. I'm not a big fan of the extra noise it introduces, but you have to pay to play -- right? Heh. It hasn't leaked a drop, or even given me the slightest hint it had a problem.
Welp, best of luck. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" /> Like I said, if anyone is interested in my pump just make me an offer, you can email me at magnus@laker.net or PM me. Otherwise, it's just going to collect dust. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />