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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 05:11 PM
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Im considering doing intercooled sts kit, but how much boost can I run safely with my h/c pkg?
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:05 PM
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anyone?
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:07 PM
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What compression are you running? If it is stock compression, then about 8 psi. What size injectors are you running?
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I just noticed your cam specs, I'm no expert on cams, but I don't think that will work that well with a turbo application. The cam I will be running is a 116 lsa, you're on a 112 lsa.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:12 PM
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I have the STS kit with Meth and a intercooler. My motor is stock, but I do have #42 Ford Racing injectors. I am pushing about 10 PSI through it without a problem so far. My intake temps on a hot day and at full boost get down to about 90-95 at night its about 68. I did have a problem with the check valve STS just sent it to me so I will see if I am still leaking oil other than that it can sometimes scare the poop out of me.

edit: As for the cam I would call STS and ask them i am sure it should still work better than my stock cam.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:14 PM
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I have patriot 6.0 heads....not sure what my compression ratio is
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:15 PM
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I personally would find that one out because if you have a tune for one compression and its another then you can say bye bye motor
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How would I go about finding that out? Not to sound like a retard here.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 06:21 PM
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I would call the place that makes them or where you bought them at and ask. If your bottom end is stock then they should be able to tell you.
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Well, the good news is if they are 6.0 liter heads, your compression ratio should be lower than stock. Unless they have really small combustion chambers. I would call Patriot and ask them. They should be able to answer that pretty easily.
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If that is the case the what kinda boost can I run and what else would I need? injectors etc? what kinda power can I expect on top of what I have and when does the bottom end **** the bed?
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I've heard of a few people running 10 psi through the stock bottom end, but unless you've got the money to get a new motor...I'm not sure if I would test it. I have 42# injectors on mine, and I was at 95% duty cycle at 8 psi. I would suggest 60#ers. Figuring I added about 175rwhp with the 8 psi kit, you could expect around the same, if not more because your heads flow better. And I was seeing a lot of valve float too. But, you're gonna need either a FMIC or a meth kit to run 8 psi or more.
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On a stock bottom end I wouldnt go over 10 PSI period, If you run between 8-10 PSI you should be at or a little above 500 RWHP which isnt bad I am at 10 and I am seeing 489 on a stock motor
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If that is the case the what kinda boost can I run and what else would I need? injectors etc? what kinda power can I expect on top of what I have and when does the bottom end **** the bed?
Phil, Go check out this LINK...it has great info for compression ratio. If your 6.0L heads have not been milled you should see about 9.3 compression, which is good for 12-14 lbs with good tuning & meth injection.
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well doing the math 440whp + 175whp = 615
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If that is the case the what kinda boost can I run and what else would I need? injectors etc? what kinda power can I expect on top of what I have and when does the bottom end **** the bed?
Phil, Go check out this LINK...it has great info for compression ratio. If your 6.0L heads have not been milled you should see about 9.3 compression, which is good for 12-14 lbs with good tuning & meth injection. Problem is your stock pistons won't hold up! At that boost you'll definitely collapse a ring land on one of them...eventually.

Hmmm...thought I stopped that first one from sending.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:15 PM
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GoatChs, that freaked me out a little bit. I thought I was imagining that I just read that!

Phil, you also want to check to see how much HP the stock pistons can handle, if there even is a max. But I know 615 rwhp is a lot of power for a stock bottom end. Are you interested in going to a forged bottom end? Also, like we mentioned before, check on the cam, and see if that will hurt you at all. Either way you cut it, it should be a beast.
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Over the winter I was contemplating building the motor or a motor since I have nitrous now. I kinda want the power there all the time rather thatn just when I am on the bottle.
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I would then suggest going with the FMIC rather than the meth. Meth kind of has the same problem as NO2. When the bottle is empty, you can't run as much boost. Also, when you order the kit, make sure you order the turbo that will suit your needs now AND later. I didn't do this, and now I have to pay more to upgrade my turbo. Just plan ahead, and you'll save some dough.
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Old Oct 8, 2005 | 07:32 PM
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i figure ill get the 67 upgrade adn the fmic.
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