NUTBUTER

I made a post a wile back with only 1 reply COME ON <img border="0" alt="[bullshit]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_bs.gif" /> you guys can do better then that. I’m only looking for info on how to make a “calm” streetable turbo/supercharged car (2002 Z28). I would like to know if I’m better off going with a super or a turbo charger to achieve my goal of 400+ rwhp with only a “few” bolt on mods (cat back and intake mods) wile being able to run pump gas and not having to worry about breaking down all the time.
Thanks in advance
<img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" /> NUTY1 <img border="0" alt="[Banging Head]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_banghead.gif" />

Phate

iTrader: (2)

It depends when you want the system...if you want something right now then I would go with the GWP Stage II ATI kit. If you can wait a while for some add'l testing results you might want to look at the single turbo kit that is being developed by Rob Raymer.

As far as "worrying about things breaking down all of the time"...a FI system lasting is directly related to the intelligence and level of care of the person operating it. My guess is a majority of the cars that have blown up or had problems on FI have been people running untuned combos. If those people had taken more time to properly tune the car then they would probably still be running.

Also, the reason that you may not get a ton of responses on this post is because someone asks this question every few days. Use the search feature and go look up some of the other posts. People get tired of re-typing the same things <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="gr_images/icons/wink.gif" />

Scott

NUTBUTER

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> Don’t you think a stage 1 kit will be enough to keep me happy? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> With “no computer programming needed”......it sounds like an e-z install with few things to go wrong

The stage 2 on the other hand sounds like it could be picky on the set up/tuning

<img border="0" alt="[angel]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_angel.gif" /> I am new to this and really don’t want a car that will pound all others...just a car that holds it own and then some in the slow streets of N.Y. <img border="0" alt="[boring]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_zzz.gif" />

chasgiv3

iTrader: (1)

Your goals are easily within reach. If you want to keep the things quiet then go with a Twin Turbo setup. If you like the sounds of the motor when you get on it then think about a supercharger. Close to 500RHWP is doable with the twins turbo as Harlan can tesify to. He had pretty much everything stock on his motor at the time and achieved over that on pump gas.

Phate

iTrader: (2)

True, a Stage 1 kit could get you what you are looking for pretty easily, but I usually recommend something that is capable of more because 90% of people decide they want to go faster in the future...why not have the tools to do that at hand?

If all that you are looking for is ~400 rwhp then I would suggest going with a good heads/cam/bolt-on setup and saving yourself the hassle of FI.

FI cars are a lot more picky and need a lot more attention when setting them up...most of the head/cam packages are pretty well dialed in now and produce great power.

I went FI because the twin turbo kit was what I wanted (there is no longer a twin turbo option available by the way...). My car seems reliable now and is making great power, but I did all of the tuning and I bought all of the tools that I needed to monitor it.

Scott

Black LS1 T/A

Do what I did.

Get the Stage II initially with the 4.10" pulley (netted me 405 RWHP, 425 RWTQ,
1.72 60'
4.93 330'
7.63 1/8 ET
91.00 1/8 MPH
11.92 1/4 ET
115.32 1/4 MPH)

Later, I put on some inexpensive MAC headers, only had to change the programming, pulley and injectors to reach 486.3 RWHP/487.0 RWTQ and this are now my best time:

1.65 60'
4.60 330'
7.07 1/8 ET
99.49 1/8 MPH
10.98 1/4 ET
125.83 1/4 MPH

The Stage II gives you a great upgrade path when you get tired of "SAFE" and want "AGGRESSIVE"! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

And just think. That is with stock internals.
Forged Pistons, a cam and heads? That would have been my next path, except I'm holding out for:

Golden West Performance 422 Stroker! <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />

Just talk to them about it, see what you think.

Ask for Jason at 303-346-5232

Chad00ws6

I have the Vortech V-9 Kit with aftercooler and I have 419.8rwhp on a bone stock car except for the FI. From what I have heard it may be a bit easier to install the ATI but I got mine really cheap.
Trust me on what this as said by Scott98ZTrue, a Stage 1 kit could get you what you are looking for pretty easily, but I usually recommend something that is capable of more because 90% of people decide they want to go faster in the future...why not have the tools to do that at hand?
I am already wanting more there is a never ending wish for more so why not start with the more capable kit from the start.

AlienDroid

I'm biased. Go turbo or go slow.

of corse, I'm going heads/cam, stroked and bored and built and turbo, but turbo first.

BlownTA2002

D1SC Tuner Kit from ATI.
Only 7 psi pulley putting only 5-6psi in motor
Very conservative custom tune from Super Chips
Bone stock motor
476 @wheels
Daily driver
Perfectly streetable without a single problem

Alls you need is a lil boost and a good tune if you want to be safe. And the dyno pulls were on a 101 degree day. Just think what it would put down on a nice 60 degree day 500+ ????? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />

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