New to FI and have some Qs...
New to FI and have some Qs... Im from the N2O world of LS1s, but getting tired of the bottle. I want something thats always there.
What are the type of HP and TQ numbers from a stock motored Supercharged car?
How about a turboed?
How long does the stock motor on average last?
Ill probably have alot of questions, so these are the first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
What are the type of HP and TQ numbers from a stock motored Supercharged car?
How about a turboed?
How long does the stock motor on average last?
Ill probably have alot of questions, so these are the first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: New to FI and have some Qs... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Country Boy:
<strong>Im from the N2O world of LS1s, but getting tired of the bottle. I want something thats always there.
What are the type of HP and TQ numbers from a stock motored Supercharged car?
How about a turboed?
How long does the stock motor on average last?
Ill probably have alot of questions, so these are the first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well hp numbers will range from 350-550 rwhp on a turbo setup. It is infinatly adjustable with tuneing and boost levels, however the higher you go the harder it is to tune. So I'd say a good setup with a boost controler you can run 450-500rwhp on the street and 500+rwhp at the track with good fuel on a stock motor. Now because it's there all the time, you'll go WOT more often at that hp level then with nitrous. It should hold for a while, but you will eventually up the boost too much or something and pop a head gasket, seems to happen to everyone, that little screw/*** is too tempting <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
You will probably someday want to dive into the motor and set it up for boost. On a single turbo you'll have lots of low end torque with a t76 or smaller turbo.
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 08:59 PM: Message edited by: AlienDroid ]</small>
<strong>Im from the N2O world of LS1s, but getting tired of the bottle. I want something thats always there.
What are the type of HP and TQ numbers from a stock motored Supercharged car?
How about a turboed?
How long does the stock motor on average last?
Ill probably have alot of questions, so these are the first <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well hp numbers will range from 350-550 rwhp on a turbo setup. It is infinatly adjustable with tuneing and boost levels, however the higher you go the harder it is to tune. So I'd say a good setup with a boost controler you can run 450-500rwhp on the street and 500+rwhp at the track with good fuel on a stock motor. Now because it's there all the time, you'll go WOT more often at that hp level then with nitrous. It should hold for a while, but you will eventually up the boost too much or something and pop a head gasket, seems to happen to everyone, that little screw/*** is too tempting <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
You will probably someday want to dive into the motor and set it up for boost. On a single turbo you'll have lots of low end torque with a t76 or smaller turbo.
<small>[ September 16, 2002, 08:59 PM: Message edited by: AlienDroid ]</small>
Re: New to FI and have some Qs... Carl there are a bunch of ways to go.. You just have to decide on what your driving habits are going to be.. They are about the same price. If you do not want to lose your headers and other bolt ons.. SC'ing is the way to go.. You can get pretty close to 500rwhp with a nice cam and boost.. Turbo would require you to get rid of some stuff, but it is stealthy and sounds kick ***. You should be able to get more horsepower out of the turbo secondary to it not needing to run off the engines pulley system.. You have to also take into consideration that your drivetrain is going to take more abuse from a turbo setup secondary to turbos hit max boost sooner than SC'd cars.. Either way you will kill all the Supras in our area with the right setup.. Another good thing.. You could still use your wet kit on both.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Re: New to FI and have some Qs... If you want to get huge power gains your going to have to dip into the engine.
I hope to make over 500rwhp when i get my new stock cubed engine back in, and eventually tweak it to over 600rwhp.
I hope to make over 500rwhp when i get my new stock cubed engine back in, and eventually tweak it to over 600rwhp.
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Re: New to FI and have some Qs... Hey man! I just made the same decision not too long ago to leave the nitrous and get a blower. Since either can make more power than my motor, wallet, and myself can handle, I picked the ATI kit since no one local has one that I know of, and my friend is getting the ls1motorsports turbo kit. I also picked a SC cuz I know I couldn't keep from turning the **** up on the turbo, so I gotta change a pulley if I want more. Hopefully that would delay me enough to come back down to earth. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> There's a lot to be learned in these forums, from reading back and searching older posts.
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Re: New to FI and have some Qs... </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by VINCE:
<strong>Carl there are a bunch of ways to go.. You just have to decide on what your driving habits are going to be.. They are about the same price. If you do not want to lose your headers and other bolt ons.. SC'ing is the way to go.. You can get pretty close to 500rwhp with a nice cam and boost.. Turbo would require you to get rid of some stuff, but it is stealthy and sounds kick ***. You should be able to get more horsepower out of the turbo secondary to it not needing to run off the engines pulley system.. You have to also take into consideration that your drivetrain is going to take more abuse from a turbo setup secondary to turbos hit max boost sooner than SC'd cars.. Either way you will kill all the Supras in our area with the right setup.. Another good thing.. You could still use your wet kit on both.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well you might not be ready to take on Jesus or SW or any of the other top supras yet but you'll smoke twin turbo supras all day and some of the single turbo supras as well.
<strong>Carl there are a bunch of ways to go.. You just have to decide on what your driving habits are going to be.. They are about the same price. If you do not want to lose your headers and other bolt ons.. SC'ing is the way to go.. You can get pretty close to 500rwhp with a nice cam and boost.. Turbo would require you to get rid of some stuff, but it is stealthy and sounds kick ***. You should be able to get more horsepower out of the turbo secondary to it not needing to run off the engines pulley system.. You have to also take into consideration that your drivetrain is going to take more abuse from a turbo setup secondary to turbos hit max boost sooner than SC'd cars.. Either way you will kill all the Supras in our area with the right setup.. Another good thing.. You could still use your wet kit on both.... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Well you might not be ready to take on Jesus or SW or any of the other top supras yet but you'll smoke twin turbo supras all day and some of the single turbo supras as well.
Re: New to FI and have some Qs... Thats the only part I cant get over is the $6k price tag for ~ the same HP as a heads and cam package. If I would get the heads/cam to benifit from the FI, then Im in the hole ~$10k, then when the stock bottom end lets go, that another $3k+ for a forged rebuild... damn, up to ~$13k <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> Whoa... thats alot of blood there...
Hummm... maybe not the way for a poor white boy to go <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
Hummm... maybe not the way for a poor white boy to go <img border="0" title="" alt="[Sad]" src="gr_sad.gif" />
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Re: New to FI and have some Qs... country boy, how many heads/cam packages will net you 500rwhp for $6000. None of them, you need to go up in CID for 500rwhp and that is costly.
Go get a new Turbo Tech kit for $4500 + $1500 for install and make more hp then any heads cam package will ever get you. There's no point in going heads/cam along with a turbo on a stock motor because you'll have to turn down the boost to preserve the engine, otherwise if you wanted to risk the motor in the first place, you need only turn that little **** for more boost.
Go get a new Turbo Tech kit for $4500 + $1500 for install and make more hp then any heads cam package will ever get you. There's no point in going heads/cam along with a turbo on a stock motor because you'll have to turn down the boost to preserve the engine, otherwise if you wanted to risk the motor in the first place, you need only turn that little **** for more boost.
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Re: New to FI and have some Qs... tell ya what if you want a close feeling of a nos hit do the turbos. I got them and after the tuning the bitchs it runs great. Also you might want to know I went threw 4-5 trans and just busted a strong aftermarket torque arm. Its worth it though when its running <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> . I think most of the kits now a days come with bigger injectors????. If not get some cause your just a manual boost valve away from 10+ psi on the turbos <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> . if you want power nad want to take care of the drivetrain atad longer get a s/c. I wish I had a sound clip of my setup with duel cutouts going down the road. Alot of people said it sounds like a jet taking off. Ether way you go you will be happy.