zturbo

First off not a ls1 but there will be a ls1 setup coming in a short time.
Figured i would post some pics i forgot about on the digital camera.

In the pics you can see the headers are on but they are the prototype ones that are mild steel the stainless ones are now on the car. Got everything lined out finially and alot has changed with the setup. alum strip to hold rad is now alot prettier looking as it has been machined up to look correct on the nose. but here is a few pics will have the tubing and whatnot up for viewing soon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
turbo headers in side shot

Steven

<small>[ November 09, 2002, 12:14 AM: Message edited by: zturbo ]</small>

smokinHawk

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THat looks freakin BAD, you're going to make a ton of power.

Ive been thinking of doing somthing like that to my car. Good luck and keep us updated.

zturbo

Thanks Smokin I will keep you all updated hopefully the car will be warm in my garage in a week or so.

We are actually planning on doing a setup for the ls1's but minor things changed going to not need the relocating (we are at least gonna shoot for that) I have not found a car yet to do the setup on but we are going to do it. This one in person with the stainless headers on looks wicked.
Steven

smokinHawk

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is this your personal install or are you planing on releasing kits then?

WestSide

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My car is available for test/install like the LS1 MS did for their test single turbo. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="gr_tounge.gif" />

zturbo

This started as a personal install but we decided to make jigs up to sell these including all parts that need to be modified in any way. I have a ton of tubing and figure make a few sets of headers.
The LS1 version though will be a street setup that will keep a/c. If I don't get a ls1 we will be wanting to use a car for a setup on. I just want to sit down and draw out some more of the design on the car We want to sell these but wont release pricing and whatnot until we have a hard setup that works.

smokinHawk

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man that rocks, Id like to get a set of TT headers. is it going to come up and out, unlike the oil problem incon kits.
I wanted to make some like that but got to get a welder. let us know. id like to talk more about this to you for the ls1. good luck.

smokinHawk

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Take a look at halltechs headers for there vette. IT come up then forward. When you bring the exhaust up it will yeild mor pore then turning down at frist, then you could exit with a 2.5" or 3" downpipe.
you would proabably have to relocate the coil packs and possibly the power steering.

zturbo

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Take a look at halltechs headers for there vette. IT come up then forward. When you bring the exhaust up it will yeild mor pore then turning down at frist, then you could exit with a 2.5" or 3" downpipe.
you would proabably have to relocate the coil packs and possibly the power steering.
</font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I am not sure about it yeilding more power from routing it up then foward. What I have found out from a few places if people are going to drive these things on the street that is bad. Reasoning is that the heat from the headers being right over the valve covers will temper the springs and ruin the valve springs.
With the system on my personal car it is 3.5" out of the turbos straight down then back when it bends back it goes to 4" oval tubing. (Dual)

Anytime you feel like talking just drop a line or post here i look here every few days
Steven

smokinHawk

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they dont sit right above the valve covers, i guess just the side. not sure if it would generate to much heat in the engine compartment.
Youd definatly have to ceramic coat them.

aram

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</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by zturbo:
<strong>First off not a ls1 but there will be a ls1 setup coming in a short time.
Figured i would post some pics i forgot about on the digital camera.

In the pics you can see the headers are on but they are the prototype ones that are mild steel the stainless ones are now on the car. Got everything lined out finially and alot has changed with the setup. alum strip to hold rad is now alot prettier looking as it has been machined up to look correct on the nose. but here is a few pics will have the tubing and whatnot up for viewing soon <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
turbo headers in side shot

Steven</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I heard a while back you were working on a single turbo LT1 setup.. are you still planning on doing that?

zturbo

That is something we talked about and will make a setup that i can unhook the twins and install a single. Reason for this is someone could start out with a single then upgrade to the twins if they couldnt afford. I just want a single for rules reasons.
Steven

aram

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If a crossover pipe was easy to make and route to the driver side you could do all that and keep the power steering on the passenger side.. and make a "streetable" single lt1 setup. It looks like there is no way to do it without losing the abs.. but that's not really a big deal.

I am putting my car back together with my new 9:1 355 and T76 and 3 core air-water ic and looking into options for the exhaust routing.. I can handle the intake air into and out of the turbo, but am not comfortable enough to fabricate the turbo "header" and crossover.. are you planning on making something available anytime soon? I was going to start off by just using the turbotech log and crossover and then try to upgrade to something better, so if you were working on a single turbo header and crossover I'd be really interested.

zturbo

I wasn't planning on in the next month or so. If you are going to utilize a t-76 I would honestly get something made besides the turbo tech log.
If I do the single turbo setup it will be a set of headers that are Y-ed into the turbo. I know it is not easier to make the headers and then y it into the turbo but.. I honestly feel that there is so much more hp with using a set of headers and a Y pipe. Drop me a line ARAM tell me what exactly you are looking for as of placement of the turbo etc... where is the intercooler going to go and i will sit down and figure out what can be done. I have all my assecory brackets so I can slap them on go to work. Do you have ac? we might be able to drop the passenger side down and route the y over to the drivers side and do it that way. It all depends on what you have in the way. Do you not want to move rad?

Steven

aram

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I'll drop you a line when I get back home from work. The car is a 93 TA. Basically been collecting parts for the car for the last six months.. have the engine/cage/tranny/turbo/ic setup and just need the exhaust now. I have no AC with the 1LE delete bracket. I would like to keep the power steering. I have a 3 core liquid air IC that fits where the front bumper mounts and has 3" outlets on each end. I am not sure what is involved in moving the radiator forward, but if necessary I wouldn't mind doing it. Don't mind moving the battery or removing the abs either. I have a basic wire feed MIG so if anything basic that needs to be welded I can handle it. There is a staff machine shop where I work so I can fabricate anything basic that is required. The car is a tagged car that I was planning on using for a weekend/strip car, I don't mind losing or relocating things to get the job done. As for mounting of the turbo, I would love to mount the turbo up front somewhere similar to where you have mounted one of your twins.

Thanks, and I'll send you an email.

G5TA

sent you a pm

zturbo

g5ta sent mail back.

Steven

XLR8NSS

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I was just wondering what type of advantages headers have with a turbo setup over a log style manifold. The exhaust is all going to the same place anyway.

I guess the easier it is for the exhaust to get to the turbo the more effiecient the setup will be. I guess the turbo would spool up faster too huh.

Is that about right? I don't know anything about turbos. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />

John

zturbo

Less backpressure easier flow the better. A log style will work great but with proper headers built you should see more gains. Headers will be less likely to crack as well. Reason being is a log has alot of stress put on the log section and the primaries cause of the heads contraction and expansion rates being way diff than stainless steel. Turbo should spool very nicely with the headers as well but if you get the exhaust there either will spool on a v8 very nicely.