TT are done!!!!!!!!!
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TT are done!!!!!!!!! Well finally have dyno numbers. It is a twin turbo(different turbos),LS1 camaro, 2 stage NOS, 6.0L heads, all 3" ATR exhaust. The car has everything posible as far as suspension.
So 514hp and 587ft-lbs with both stages(50hp)
The NOS is to cool the air temp. but the 1st stage 24hp equaled 32hp and 47ft-lbs. The intake is holding me back flowing 52-58cfm(I think). The turbos are smaller than the incon kit(spool faster). Keep in mide this is a autoX car so I am not looking for anymore power going to try to get traction in a 315 nitto 555R. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
So 514hp and 587ft-lbs with both stages(50hp)
The NOS is to cool the air temp. but the 1st stage 24hp equaled 32hp and 47ft-lbs. The intake is holding me back flowing 52-58cfm(I think). The turbos are smaller than the incon kit(spool faster). Keep in mide this is a autoX car so I am not looking for anymore power going to try to get traction in a 315 nitto 555R. <img border="0" alt="[Fluffy]" title="" src="graemlins/fluffy.gif" />
Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! Awsome, Very nice power too!!! Should be a beast.
What kind of wheels are you going with?
When is the cage going in that biotch!??
Anyways, Nice #'s, how do you like it so far?
What was the power without the NOS?
Joe
What kind of wheels are you going with?
When is the cage going in that biotch!??
Anyways, Nice #'s, how do you like it so far?
What was the power without the NOS?
Joe
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! I don't know without NOS Greg finished it today and I called him to hear the numbers. I only drove it twice and there was zero traction without NOS so all I can say is it sounds cool. I am going to run Grand Sport rims 17x11 with 315 nitto 555R for street and slicks at track. Roll bar in spring 6point with cross bars. Heard about your oil problem that sucks!
Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! is the car not intercooled? you should be able to sustain those numbers without nitrous if so, long as your compression isnt wacko... it would suck to have to spray for the entire time during an autocross lap
id like to see some pics vids of course!!
congrats on the numbers!
id like to see some pics vids of course!!
congrats on the numbers!
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! Two intercoolers but the turbos are not the standard ones that would come in the kit. OH, this is on 94 pump gas. So the smaller turbos don't flow as much as there big brother Incons. I will soon have 4 turbos 2(600hp mustang) 2(ls1). The NOS is 2 stange are 24hp each. I have to talk to Greg b/c at 7lb and 2 stages the numbers where 477.0hp@5500rpm 546.8@4000rpm so I wonder what boost number we are at with the latest dyno! My headers, downtubes, and intake pipe are all jetcoated. The intake temp (when cold 67* and up to 100*) But I saw the nos drop it 10* when it hit. I know the bigger turbos will give me more power but I have enough power for autoX and no one can use nos in autox anyway.
Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! Bout time Greg got that done for you.
Congrats, sounds like a killer ride. DId you get any numbers off the spray?
How much boost were you running with the 514/587?
those turbos were small, you could fit one of them into the intake of my turbo <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Oh, and you have to many cars, you need to give me one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Congrats, sounds like a killer ride. DId you get any numbers off the spray?
How much boost were you running with the 514/587?
those turbos were small, you could fit one of them into the intake of my turbo <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
Oh, and you have to many cars, you need to give me one <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" />
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! About 10psi average, it was 11psi at peak torque and 9psi above 5200rpm. It appears either the stock intake or Incon coolers are beginning to become a flow restriction up top because airflow levels off at about 58lb/min (MAF datalog) from 4800rpm to redline. Final numbers without the bottle were 482.7rwhp and 567.2rwft-lbs. Not too bad for pump gas and a stock bottom end. Have fun trying to find traction, Bill... <img border="0" alt="[Burnout]" title="" src="graemlins/burnout.gif" />
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Verdad Gallardo Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! Thats a ton of torque, why cant i make that much torque Greg?..... Maybe next year.
But do you think the Turbos arnt big enough to fill that much PSI on the upper RPM levels.
On a lot of stock turbos they drop off in psi on upper rpm cause they cant support that much flow.
<small>[ November 26, 2002, 09:14 AM: Message edited by: smokinHawk ]</small>
But do you think the Turbos arnt big enough to fill that much PSI on the upper RPM levels.
On a lot of stock turbos they drop off in psi on upper rpm cause they cant support that much flow.
<small>[ November 26, 2002, 09:14 AM: Message edited by: smokinHawk ]</small>
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! The bigger turbos are only bigger on the compressor side and the chra fins are a little bigger. If I ever find traction with a 11" tire then I will change tubos! I have to wonder what the bigger turbos would give me!
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by turbolx:
<strong>It appears either the stock intake or Incon coolers are beginning to become a flow restriction up top because airflow levels off at about 58lb/min (MAF datalog) from 4800rpm to redline</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No no no. Its not flow restriction.
Your MAF is maxed out. I'm not an expert, but I think that you need to fix this. Look at some of the threads on extending the MAF tables with edit, or tricking it to read lower.
<strong>It appears either the stock intake or Incon coolers are beginning to become a flow restriction up top because airflow levels off at about 58lb/min (MAF datalog) from 4800rpm to redline</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">No no no. Its not flow restriction.
Your MAF is maxed out. I'm not an expert, but I think that you need to fix this. Look at some of the threads on extending the MAF tables with edit, or tricking it to read lower.
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! Garrat gt25 Ball bearing turbos. They are INCON pieces off the mustanges called the 600hp turbos. The nos is two wet shots at W.O.T both are jeted at 24hp and are ran at the same time. I think you are right about the ls1 edit thing but I am sure Greg would have done that. I will talk to him on monday when I pick it up!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> THANKS
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! 58 lb/min maf flow is maximum that the stock pcm will read up to then it just flat lines. You will have to tweek the maf or some other method to see more flow.
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Re: TT are done!!!!!!!!! Hey Man!
I was talking to John and he told me about your car so I decided to e-mail ya.
So I guess I just have to say <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I think that your car might need WINGS!!! <img border="0" alt="[pimp]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_pimp.gif" />
I'll talk to ya later man.
I was talking to John and he told me about your car so I decided to e-mail ya.
So I guess I just have to say <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> I think that your car might need WINGS!!! <img border="0" alt="[pimp]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_pimp.gif" />
I'll talk to ya later man.
