looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world!
03-13-2003, 12:42 AM
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000 ws6:
<strong> Check out my buddies, His has been Fast for awhile . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
This car Has about 125 more horsepower than the timeslip you see on that page <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Car runs 11's and is daily driven since its his only car and still gets great gas mileage.
Neon </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm assuming that line on the bottom that goes to just over 100 is his torque? Holy crap that is a seriously night and day torque to horsepower curve. I don't know if I can belive that a FWD neon with 340whp(and no torque to speak of) can hit 11.7 unless he utterly gutted the hell out of that car.
Regardless, it's an impressive ride. Congrats to your buddy.
BH
<strong> Check out my buddies, His has been Fast for awhile . <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
This car Has about 125 more horsepower than the timeslip you see on that page <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
Car runs 11's and is daily driven since its his only car and still gets great gas mileage.
Neon </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">I'm assuming that line on the bottom that goes to just over 100 is his torque? Holy crap that is a seriously night and day torque to horsepower curve. I don't know if I can belive that a FWD neon with 340whp(and no torque to speak of) can hit 11.7 unless he utterly gutted the hell out of that car.
Regardless, it's an impressive ride. Congrats to your buddy.
BH
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! The bottom line is actually the airfuel ratio look over to the right side of the graph and thats what that line is used for.Its an australian type Dyno, Called a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Its an Import Shops dyno here in my local area. I believe his tq range is in the low 300 area.
<small>[ March 13, 2003, 02:13 AM: Message edited by: 2000 ws6 ]</small>
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by unit213:
<strong> Curb weight is 2,970lbs. There are f-bodies with a raceweight around there and we have 346ci compared to the Neon's 148ci motor. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, stunning point <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Even if you want to compare a Neon to an F-body, they weigh almost 600 lbs less than us. Displacement is totally irrelevant in your argument since they are turbocharged and last I checked the LS1 is not <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
A healthy T3/T4 or similar setup would certainly be a recipe for an easy 11 second Neon, I have to give Dodge props for this!
And as for the dangerous soccer moms now having boost comment, I would much rather be hit by a Neon than an Excursion any frickin day of the month!
<strong> Curb weight is 2,970lbs. There are f-bodies with a raceweight around there and we have 346ci compared to the Neon's 148ci motor. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, stunning point <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/rolleyes.gif" />
Even if you want to compare a Neon to an F-body, they weigh almost 600 lbs less than us. Displacement is totally irrelevant in your argument since they are turbocharged and last I checked the LS1 is not <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" />
A healthy T3/T4 or similar setup would certainly be a recipe for an easy 11 second Neon, I have to give Dodge props for this!
And as for the dangerous soccer moms now having boost comment, I would much rather be hit by a Neon than an Excursion any frickin day of the month!
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Blown Hawk:
<strong> I'm assuming that line on the bottom that goes to just over 100 is his torque? Holy crap that is a seriously night and day torque to horsepower curve. I don't know if I can belive that a FWD neon with 340whp(and no torque to speak of) can hit 11.7 unless he utterly gutted the hell out of that car. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, since hp is tq X rpm / 5252, I would assume that you mistook the A/F curve for his tq curve and can't read a dyno <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> .
<strong> I'm assuming that line on the bottom that goes to just over 100 is his torque? Holy crap that is a seriously night and day torque to horsepower curve. I don't know if I can belive that a FWD neon with 340whp(and no torque to speak of) can hit 11.7 unless he utterly gutted the hell out of that car. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Um, since hp is tq X rpm / 5252, I would assume that you mistook the A/F curve for his tq curve and can't read a dyno <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="gr_stretch.gif" /> .
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000 ws6:
<strong> The bottom line is actually the airfuel ratio look over to the right side of the graph and thats what that line is used for.Its an australian type Dyno, Called a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Its an Import Shops dyno here in my local area. I believe his tq range is in the low 300 area. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My bad, I stand corrected. Must have had a brain fart on that one. I'm still curious how he hit 11.7 on 340whp. I tried looking at his time slip but it's really difficult to read. It looks like he trapped at 116, but I can't make out a 60' on that slip. It's impressive none-the-less but I am curious how he hit that time.
Thanks for clearing up the confusing.
Mike
<strong> The bottom line is actually the airfuel ratio look over to the right side of the graph and thats what that line is used for.Its an australian type Dyno, Called a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Its an Import Shops dyno here in my local area. I believe his tq range is in the low 300 area. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My bad, I stand corrected. Must have had a brain fart on that one. I'm still curious how he hit 11.7 on 340whp. I tried looking at his time slip but it's really difficult to read. It looks like he trapped at 116, but I can't make out a 60' on that slip. It's impressive none-the-less but I am curious how he hit that time.
Thanks for clearing up the confusing.
Mike
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Blown Hawk:
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000 ws6:
<strong> The bottom line is actually the airfuel ratio look over to the right side of the graph and thats what that line is used for.Its an australian type Dyno, Called a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Its an Import Shops dyno here in my local area. I believe his tq range is in the low 300 area. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My bad, I stand corrected. Must have had a brain fart on that one. I'm still curious how he hit 11.7 on 340whp. I tried looking at his time slip but it's really difficult to read. It looks like he trapped at 116, but I can't make out a 60' on that slip. It's impressive none-the-less but I am curious how he hit that time.
Thanks for clearing up the confusing.
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is hard to believe about that time? His car weighs much less than an F-body.
<strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by 2000 ws6:
<strong> The bottom line is actually the airfuel ratio look over to the right side of the graph and thats what that line is used for.Its an australian type Dyno, Called a Dyno Dynamics dyno. Its an Import Shops dyno here in my local area. I believe his tq range is in the low 300 area. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">My bad, I stand corrected. Must have had a brain fart on that one. I'm still curious how he hit 11.7 on 340whp. I tried looking at his time slip but it's really difficult to read. It looks like he trapped at 116, but I can't make out a 60' on that slip. It's impressive none-the-less but I am curious how he hit that time.
Thanks for clearing up the confusing.
Mike </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">What is hard to believe about that time? His car weighs much less than an F-body.
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! He ran a 11.79@116.6 mph on a 1.6 60 foot, He does run slicks. The car weighs about 2700 lbs. Its much faster now than the 11.7 run. He is probably going to hit high 10's this year with his bigger turbo and the car is this guys only car and will remain streetable, drives it everyday.
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> The guy can drive really good to.He is still running stock head no work done to it, and stock cams. Plenty of more power to be made with this car. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="gr_grin.gif" /> The guy can drive really good to.He is still running stock head no work done to it, and stock cams. Plenty of more power to be made with this car. <img border="0" alt="[evil]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_devil.gif" />
03-13-2003, 09:42 PM
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by Fenris Ulf:
<strong> What is hard to believe about that time? His car weighs much less than an F-body. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not hard to believe, I'm curious as to the details of the car.
2000 WS6,
Personally I thought his weight would have been much less seeing some of the pics of the inside of that car. Impressive times though. A 1.6 on a FWD is crazy fast. Most of the low 12/high 11 fwd cars I've seen(and I can count them on one hand) haven't gotten anywhere near that 60' and trap extremely high compared to their ET.
What kind of tranny does he use to hook all that power up?
Mike
<small>[ March 13, 2003, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: Blown Hawk ]</small>
<strong> What is hard to believe about that time? His car weighs much less than an F-body. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">It's not hard to believe, I'm curious as to the details of the car.
2000 WS6,
Personally I thought his weight would have been much less seeing some of the pics of the inside of that car. Impressive times though. A 1.6 on a FWD is crazy fast. Most of the low 12/high 11 fwd cars I've seen(and I can count them on one hand) haven't gotten anywhere near that 60' and trap extremely high compared to their ET.
What kind of tranny does he use to hook all that power up?
Mike
<small>[ March 13, 2003, 09:43 PM: Message edited by: Blown Hawk ]</small>
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! Stock 5 speed tranny, he leaves off the line on a 2 step.
Here is a video of his car running 1/8 when his car dynoed 300 at the front wheels. This was a few weeks before he ran his 11.7
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Here is a video of his car running 1/8 when his car dynoed 300 at the front wheels. This was a few weeks before he ran his 11.7
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! I now know what I am buying as my daily driver <img border="0" alt="[burn out]" title="" src="graemlins/gr_burnout.gif" />
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! Try this page for real world dyno #'s for the SRT.
218hp-232tq at the wheels. http://www.turbopiping.com/pages/1/index.htm
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218hp-232tq at the wheels. http://www.turbopiping.com/pages/1/index.htm
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Re: looks like the new dodge neons are moving up in the world! it gets worse!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="gr_eek2.gif" /> turbo neon!!!