My Stenod Performance Build Take Another Step Foward
Awesome, I can't wait for the numbers. Looks like everything is coming together pretty well. 
Have a question though...
How come you went with L-19 rod bolts? They are stronger then ARP2000s technically.... But there are more commonly used strictly for racing applications. Plus contamination is the big thing with L-19.
Anyone else using L-19? I'm going to end up with ARP2000s most likely.
Have a question though...
How come you went with L-19 rod bolts? They are stronger then ARP2000s technically.... But there are more commonly used strictly for racing applications. Plus contamination is the big thing with L-19.
Anyone else using L-19? I'm going to end up with ARP2000s most likely.
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Originally Posted by BAD *** TA WS6
Awesome, I can't wait for the numbers. Looks like everything is coming together pretty well.
Have a question though...
How come you went with L-19 rod bolts? They are stronger then ARP2000s technically.... But there are more commonly used strictly for racing applications. Plus contamination is the big thing with L-19.
Anyone else using L-19? I'm going to end up with ARP2000s most likely.
Have a question though...
How come you went with L-19 rod bolts? They are stronger then ARP2000s technically.... But there are more commonly used strictly for racing applications. Plus contamination is the big thing with L-19.
Anyone else using L-19? I'm going to end up with ARP2000s most likely.
Contamination from???? Went with them for strength..........
Compression on the motor is 8.87:1
Kyle
Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Contamination from???? Went with them for strength..........
Kyle
Kyle
Also care must be taken when manufacturing, or else Hydrogen Embrittlement can occur. ARP produces the L-19 products in batches though. I would expect that with the nature of the particular steel, great care is taken.
It's expensive, and strong. I think the ARP2000s are plenty strong enough. Either those, or the Katech rod bolts. Both have been used in the 7000RPM range.
I haven't really seen/heard of anyone else running them. I know there are probably quite a few on the board. I'm just not aware of them. I'd really like to know how they have worked out from first hand experiance.
Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
Contamination from???? Went with them for strength..........
Compression on the motor is 8.87:1
Kyle
Compression on the motor is 8.87:1
Kyle
This a max effort street turbo setup? Wondering why you choose to go that high on compression. How much boost you plan on running with pump & race gas?
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Originally Posted by JnJSpdShop
He is probably talking about hydrogen embrittlement from water. Not really an issue with rod bolts, but you are suppose to keep them dry and wear gloves when you handle them. They are very prone to rust, very quickly.
This a max effort street turbo setup? Wondering why you choose to go that high on compression. How much boost you plan on running with pump & race gas?
This a max effort street turbo setup? Wondering why you choose to go that high on compression. How much boost you plan on running with pump & race gas?
At the track it will see only C16 and prob around 20+ psi.
The reason for only 8.87:1 is off the shelf -15cc dished Diamond pistons and 72cc chambered 6.0L heads and 6.0L MLS Head gaskets.
My next set of Pistons will be lower. I would like to go back to an aluminum block down the road.... maybe even that new WP Block. I have been talking to Arias about Pistons so we will see....
With this setup i want to run Mid 9's which it should do....
Thanks for your input.
Kyle
Damn bro.. this one isn't runnin yet and you're already thinking about the next one. 
The car will be as streetable as a glide with a full spool can be.
It's built like a race car for the most part, but it'll be diven on the street for sure. It'll be trailered to the track in case something breaks (our insurance that we're getting home). I don't suspect a lot of miles on it but you never know, both Kyle and I love to cruise so it might see quite a few weekends out and about.
The car will be as streetable as a glide with a full spool can be.
It's built like a race car for the most part, but it'll be diven on the street for sure. It'll be trailered to the track in case something breaks (our insurance that we're getting home). I don't suspect a lot of miles on it but you never know, both Kyle and I love to cruise so it might see quite a few weekends out and about. LS1 Tech Stories
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Originally Posted by Toonz
Damn bro.. this one isn't runnin yet and you're already thinking about the next one.
The car will be as streetable as a glide with a full spool can be. It's built like a race car for the most part, but it'll be diven on the street for sure. It'll be trailered to the track in case something breaks (our insurance that we're getting home). I don't suspect a lot of miles on it but you never know, both Kyle and I love to cruise so it might see quite a few weekends out and about.
The car will be as streetable as a glide with a full spool can be.
It's built like a race car for the most part, but it'll be diven on the street for sure. It'll be trailered to the track in case something breaks (our insurance that we're getting home). I don't suspect a lot of miles on it but you never know, both Kyle and I love to cruise so it might see quite a few weekends out and about. No No Brutha you got me all wrong..... lovin it........ ill love the car the way it is.... im thinking down the the road... wayyyyyyyyyyy down the road.
Im still going to cruise it to work quite a few times a week.... remember i live 1.5 miles each way from base so it will take longer for the car to warm up then drive to work....
It will still be cruised on the street to local hangouts and other things..... not to the Grocery store bt all means.
Like my bro said above we are out to enjoy this car.
Thanks guys.
Kyle
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Originally Posted by 2000 Tran Zam
wait, isnt a powerglide only 2 gears? how can you drive that on the street at all?
Yep 2 gears.... same as aTH400 and Th350 meaning there 3rd (1:1) is the same as my 2nd.
I have a 1.80 first gear... it then drops off to 1:1.
Im good for almost 160mph in the 1/4 with my Glide, 3.73's ,and a 28" tall tire.
RPM's on the street will be around 2800@ 65mph or so.... it isnt that bad...( ill know exactly what RPM's when i get it back)
I was at 2500 RPM's@70 mph with my 4L60E and 3.73's.
Im in no way worried about MPG
Kyle
I know there are alot of guys running the PG with great success, I just cant see how it would be any fun to drive around wih the 2 gears.
I had a 6spd, knew that couldnt hold the power I was looking for, well at least reliably. The trans could prolly hold it, but clutches and all the wear and tear would eventually get it.
I went with a built up 4l80e, cost was to damn much, I just hope it holds up, if not its either th400 or PG.
Im kinda waiting to hear Kyle's comments on driving around with the PG before I know.
I had a 6spd, knew that couldnt hold the power I was looking for, well at least reliably. The trans could prolly hold it, but clutches and all the wear and tear would eventually get it.
I went with a built up 4l80e, cost was to damn much, I just hope it holds up, if not its either th400 or PG.
Im kinda waiting to hear Kyle's comments on driving around with the PG before I know.
Looks great Kyle. I can't wait for this car to get done. It's going to be one of the nicest cars on this forum. Good luck with the rest of the build. It will all be worth it in the end.
Andy
Andy
The setup will no doubt post good numbers, but what about highway driving? With this kind of setup, you'll want the converter to flash in the mid 4ks at the lowest since so much time down the 1320 will be spent at full flash waiting for the car to catch up. Ideally, flash will approach peak torque. With that said, your highway cruise RPM will fall viciously beneath flash RPM. A tranny cooler is a must, and goes without saying, but spending all that highway time with the converter slipping like mad will make more heat than the cooler can exchange quickly. One of my first real hot rods was a '75 camaro; had a 406" and later a 434" mill with a stall that flashed about 4300 behind the 406, and about hi-4Ks/lows 5s with the 434. The stall made it leave like MAD, but ended up toasting a th350 with a cooler and a fancy-*** ribbed "cooling" pan from highway slippage. Of course I have been out of the scene up until recently for the last 9 years; does that PG have a lockup stall? That, of course, would make all the difference.
Or is there some PG variable I'm not privy to that takes care of this?
Or is there some PG variable I'm not privy to that takes care of this?
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Originally Posted by Frost
The setup will no doubt post good numbers, but what about highway driving? With this kind of setup, you'll want the converter to flash in the mid 4ks at the lowest since so much time down the 1320 will be spent at full flash waiting for the car to catch up. Ideally, flash will approach peak torque. With that said, your highway cruise RPM will fall viciously beneath flash RPM. A tranny cooler is a must, and goes without saying, but spending all that highway time with the converter slipping like mad will make more heat than the cooler can exchange quickly. One of my first real hot rods was a '75 camaro; had a 406" and later a 434" mill with a stall that flashed about 4300 behind the 406, and about hi-4Ks/lows 5s with the 434. The stall made it leave like MAD, but ended up toasting a th350 with a cooler and a fancy-*** ribbed "cooling" pan from highway slippage. Of course I have been out of the scene up until recently for the last 9 years; does that PG have a lockup stall? That, of course, would make all the difference.
Or is there some PG variable I'm not privy to that takes care of this?
Or is there some PG variable I'm not privy to that takes care of this?
I hear ya on that... Chance built the converter around my combo.. i do have a bad *** cooler but it really wont see much if any highway driving at extended periods of time.... 20-30 miles stop for a while.... its not really a STREET car any more..... its a car that CAN be driven on the street
Rossler built the Trans to be for both.... i have to Talk to Stenod and Chance to find out the exact stall we went with.
Kyle
Looks badass Kyle...
Just fired up my Best Machine built 347 last friday and everything has been perfect.
It's up at w2w now since they have a dyno and are supposed to be the best bs3 guys, but my bs3 box started malfunctioning before they could make any pulls so they are taking care of that for me and I should have numbers on wednesday if all goes as planned.
What days are you going to be in detroit?
Just fired up my Best Machine built 347 last friday and everything has been perfect.
It's up at w2w now since they have a dyno and are supposed to be the best bs3 guys, but my bs3 box started malfunctioning before they could make any pulls so they are taking care of that for me and I should have numbers on wednesday if all goes as planned.
What days are you going to be in detroit?