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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 07:55 PM
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There is no doubt Jose knows his stuff, and his numbers surprised me. However, there is no doubt that the STS kit makes power. Is it possible that the advertising on STS's site exaggerates a little bit...sure. But I don't think it's any reason to think you've been ripped. Get the kit on, drive the car, if you don't like it then...then you can say that you feel you've been ripped. I see no reason why you would say that at this point.
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:05 PM
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i think that if you think that you got ripped you should take the turbo and beat your head with it.
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Originally Posted by onephatZ28
Your scaring me bboy;

You outline a remedy that infers a bifurcated result so polar, that sts is either "free and clear of wrong doing," or must be crusified completely.

This violation "which no one has taken an articulate stand on" seems to me like a grey area misdeameanor rather than the exacerbated felony you potentially suggest would warrant a racer from buying this product again. In short, I am concerned that you have reached a penalty phase for sts without really ascertaining whether they are the Autobots or Decepticons.

Notwithstanding, the end result for something like this may not the apocalyptic slippery slope argument that you might fear. So relax my pedewan learner, and just write what you think an "average person" would deduce when reading their website. You make it sound as if they committted blasphemy. Maybe what they have done is more comparative to going into "Barnes and Noble" and placing all the Bibles in the fiction section.

Do not relegate yourself to the lowly status of a Black Stone lawyer or the co-councel of Saddam Hussein. Instead, use your triple digit I.Q. web poster guy status and help the double digit "special eddies" like myself hold sts to an honest standard, no more, no less.

Adhere to my French comment in one of post if you must refresh your mind.

I must say the first posts you made on the other site had me rolling...but jesus...what the hell are you talking about?
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 08:52 PM
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No, just that they're innocent of any significant wrongdoing aside from the typical liberties all advertisers take as common and unapparent, standard practice, viz. acceptable to the majority of consumers. You could criticize the level of consumer acceptability as too static or too harsh, but no, they shouldn't, as a business, be crucified for this.



To the contrary, I feel they are doing nothing significantly wrong or unethical relative to the standard measures of advertising common in US business practice.



I fear no such state of affairs.



Correct.



I have no intentions of being possibly assassinated.



I feel they are at an acceptable standard of honesty for their advertising measures, adequate and conducive to their success.



How, by taking up the same habits?



By the way, I.Q.'s scores are a fairly accurate way to arrive at a good assessment of someone's intelligence qua its satisfying of agreed parameters of what makes someone intelligent, that is to say a rubric created by some old white guys driven doxastically by their presuppositions of what these measuring tools ought to be and what they ought to measure, lending accuracy to this end but being arbitrary if they have staked barren claims.

I may be wrong, but many may feel cognitive wherewithal is more accurately appreciated by an observer to the individual that bears it than by this same individual's strong self-assertion that it is indeed a clear and distinct evaluation drawn from modest self regard and organized into an efficient reflexive equilibrium of reliable information. Clearly, you are doing so and meeting the "modest" requirement ... yet, it is superfluous and allows pretenders to the throne. Great, what are you to do? We both know you're a very introverted genius, so nothing needs to be proven. However, so that it's denial by others changes from possible to impossible, allow for a moment that your abilities be recognized rather than force-fed. You will find that all will be receptive to the wonderful ideas you have, great ideas scrutinized unfairly by their origin and not their merit... My purpose was to advise and to thank. Thank you for the French lessons.
Dude you make me laugh....im seriously thinking this guy is
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 09:06 PM
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I dont what to think........Im still laughing
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:15 PM
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I always wondered who bought those STS systems... Now I know.
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Wet 1
I always wondered who bought those STS systems... Now I know.

What up guys i'm back. Should we debate some more cuz i jsut smoked a bowl. You triple digit guys are tough
Old Dec 23, 2005 | 10:51 PM
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Originally Posted by JZ 97 SS 1500
Good lord, this has turned into Turbo Scrabble.

Here is the only French statement I know.... "I surrender"
That made my week, dude!!!!
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Old Dec 23, 2005 | 11:56 PM
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The lose of hp numbers suprise me too. But the STS kits still make great Hp. I have a 2002 T/A WS6 bone stock motor making 508 hp and 548 tq @8 psi with methanol injection on a STS GT67
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 02:11 AM
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Originally Posted by My2kz28
Dude you make me laugh....im seriously thinking this guy is
Well, his sexual preference may or may not be known, but his intellectual arrogance is one which must be either elaborate jest or sincere and bold delusions of pomp and splendor. I'm sure it's the first one.

Either way, he seems harmless...

...Though, his obsession with French culture and STS are together too disturbing to dismiss...
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 02:21 AM
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Originally Posted by onephatZ28
What up guys i'm back. Should we debate some more cuz i jsut smoked a bowl. You triple digit guys are tough
Debate what? The worthiness of joining your cause to hold STS in open acknowledgement of their slightly misleading product information by preparing some petition or correspondence?



I can't speak for everyone else, but would you believe I'm a bit busy due to holiday season chores?


Uhhh... Why'd you get an STS, again?
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 02:22 AM
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Hey bboy,


First off I don't smoke pot, I was just kidding. Now that we got that cleared up I can continue with my lesson plan for you. I will call today's lesson "Bboy's personal Renaissance"

You are welcome for the French lesson, for those in our audience that do not know what "Je mange le chat, beucoup" means, my only triple digit quality, I will translate it at this time: I eat *****, alot.

Anyway, let me if I can identify the relevent points of your argument. You consider me an introverted genius...you surmised wrong young padewan english teacher! I have a double digit I.Q. and was kicked out of high school for marrying my sex ed teacher. I passed by the way; 4.91 g.p.a. So I guess I am proud that you I have met your standards of mediocrity

What is up with big words all of the sudden? There is a difference between precise and strategic application of word choice and being pretentious, e.g. your last post.

We must carefully choose our angle of communication that exacts the intended reception of a given audience. The post you mentioned earlier about ehtical business practices was clearly a Red Herring argument and an aberration of unqualified subjectivity on your part rather than an experienced based business law dissention. You made sound as if I was implementing the tactic of Marc Antony by "poisoning the well." In class, I can only imagine you as a loquacious oratorcal speaker that toots his own horn rather than one that adheres to a socratic teaching method that embraces out of ht box ideas that maybe religion reallyis a opiate for the masses. Pointless four hundred level english courses may not help you here. Were not talking about Shakespeare sonnets and blue bow bonnets, were talking about the combination of logic based reasoning and abstract thinking that combines a keen legal acumen founded with summa *** laude juris prudence.

I am entertained at your vacillating grading style. It holds me to a yo yo standard of excellence one second and deplorability the next. You speak as if you are divining from a "four corners doctrine" instead of focusing what is at hand. You must adhere to maintaning static loyality to wherever you are on the Koelberg ethical heirarchacy, I would guess that you started at "prior rights and social contacts" and dropped down to "good boy, nice girl." I'm not asking you to solve a simple parabola, I am asking you read the sts website and determine for yourself what kind of person wrote that statement, Optimus Prime, or Megatron.

Sincerily, STS AGNOSTIC

Works Cited, Sir: "Quote" -Marx


LET THE TURBO SCRABBLE BEGIN
Old Dec 24, 2005 | 03:37 AM
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Originally Posted by onephatZ28
Hey bboy,

First off I don't smoke pot, I was just kidding. Now that we got that cleared up I can continue with my lesson plan for you. I will call today's lesson "Bboy's personal Renaissance"
Hey don't get defensive, it's okay whether you smoke pot or not. Renaissance? Well, it's true that now my surprise level has been "reborn."

You are welcome for the French lesson, for those in our audience that do not know what "Je mange le chat, beucoup" means, my only triple digit quality, I will translate it at this time: I eat *****, alot.
Be careful with STD's not just STS's. Both can be incurred.

let me if I can identify the relevent points of your argument. You consider me an introverted genius...you surmised wrong young padewan english teacher!
1. Your are very kind for doing so.

2. Introverted genius? That was also sarcasm. Surely, you perceived that. You are not on one count and not as you believe on the other.

a double digit I.Q. and was kicked out of high school for marrying my sex ed teacher. I passed by the way; 4.91 g.p.a. So I guess I am proud that you I have met your standards of mediocrity
What an intersting Christmas Eve dinner you are going to have!

What is up with big words all of the sudden? There is a difference between precise and strategic application of word choice and being pretentious, e.g. your last post.
To scrutinize posts using this contention is interesting. You are pretentious in telling me I'm pretentious, e.g. apply this lesson to your last post... An attack, that if valid, attacks your own argument as well... Hmm... Maybe a Relatavist Fallacy is at work here.

We must carefully choose our angle of communication that exacts the intended reception of a given audience. The post you mentioned earlier about ehtical business practices was clearly a Red Herring argument and an aberration of unqualified subjectivity on your part rather than an experienced based business law dissention.
Yes, a Red Herring to divert the attention from the ethics of STS's business practices to... STS's business practices? Are you sure you know your logical fallacies.

You made sound as if I was implementing the tactic of Marc Antony by "poisoning the well."
Please, forgive me. No harm was intended...

In class, I can only imagine you as a loquacious oratorcal speaker that toots his own horn rather than one that adheres to a socratic teaching method that embraces out of ht box ideas that maybe religion reallyis a opiate for the masses.
Actually, I strongly detest those who toot their own horns. True greatness is recognized to the self, not promoted from the self. Please, if you learn anything from me, learn that. Society will appreciate you more... You will make more of a difference.

Pointless four hundred level english courses may not help you here. Were not talking about Shakespeare sonnets and blue bow bonnets, were talking about the combination of logic based reasoning and abstract thinking that combines a keen legal acumen founded with summa *** laude juris prudence.
Now you engage the Fallacy of the Excluded Middle (aka False dichotomy)... Since I have taken English courses, which sadly are worthless (you said, "pointless") to you (Wait... Are you sure you regard yourself to truly be an intellectual? A true intellectual accepts study from all disciplines to keep what is useful/rational. Pointless, you say? how sad, ), it must then be false that I'm schooled in Logic since it is true I am schooled in Literature. Trust me, I know logic-based reasoning in addition. Unless, I'm insecure and you made no such implication, are you implying I don't understand logic?

Philosophy Minor: Emphasis in Logic and Continental Rationalism.

I know a little bit.

I am entertained at your vacillating grading style. It holds me to a yo yo standard of excellence one second and deplorability the next. You speak as if you are divining from a "four corners doctrine" instead of focusing what is at hand. You must adhere to maintaning static loyality to wherever you are on the Koelberg ethical heirarchacy, I would guess that you started at "prior rights and social contacts" and dropped down to "good boy, nice girl." I'm not asking you to solve a simple parabola, I am asking you read the sts website and determine for yourself what kind of person wrote that statement, Optimus Prime, or Megatron.
I hold you to the same standard I hold all people and myself... That everyone is worth something. I'm just tyring to teach you something, but you are fighting hard not to learn it. You address everything except this one lesson. I wonder if you don't see it or if you are ignoring it?

"Focusing on the topic at hand:" 1. Why'd you buy an STS? 2. Really, most of us are busy, but you are urged to lead the cause. Why don't you call them?

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Bonsoir bboy,

That came out rather bad. Please don't take it condescendingly! Because after reading it, I would have; which is why I am signing off on a good note.


On a serious remark, the teaching method you choose is not right or wrong in my view. While I have my preference, I make no assertion as a panacea style to the rest of society. For what its worth, I think your better than most english teachers. And because most people tend to pick a partner as bright as themselves, I suspect that your wife (also a teacher) may be assisting in your web posting arguments.

Back to our cause, yes I am bored... no mensa meetings until January.

Until then we must demand STS change their statement in their webpage, a statement you conceded was false. This conclusion is backed by the other web poster guy that said one of his applications took 164 horse to operate the turbo. Just so you know, I cordially accept your offer of helping me elevate my status to that of the masses here at ls1tech. So please elucidate when my literary style is pomp or just jest, I wouldn't want to be considered an elitist.

If this doesn't enact a public acknowledgement on their part of misleading advertisement, wait till you see phase two. Au Revior
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I guess my post came out to late. Just so you know I was writing it when you responded to the other one.
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Check out the Camaro SS that we installed an STS Turbo on. Bob
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Bonsoir bboy,

That came out rather bad. Please don't take it condescendingly! Because after reading it, I would have; which is why I am signing off on a good note.
No... I would have never imagined you were capable of such actions... OnephatZ28, spewing dialogue that could be construed negatively? Are you sure you not too hard on yourself?


On a serious remark, the teaching method you choose is not right or wrong in my view. While I have my preference, I make no assertion as a panacea style to the rest of society. For what its worth, I think your better than most english teachers.
Compliments from you to me seem strange, I must say... almost as if you've confused our identities.

And because most people tend to pick a partner as bright as themselves, I suspect that your wife (also a teacher) may be assisting in your web posting arguments.
What a nice thing to say. Ah, your true character is back. I was confused for a bit.

I always work alone...

Back to our cause, yes I am bored... no mensa meetings until January.
What does the cream of the crop do during such testing times? Trading wits with the underprivileged is such a poor substitute, I imagine.

Until then we must demand STS change their statement in their webpage, a statement you conceded was false. This conclusion is backed by the other web poster guy that said one of his applications took 164 horse to operate the turbo.
Who's we? Why not just you?

My car insurance has gone up unfairly. You need to help me address this with them.

Just so you know, I cordially accept your offer of helping me elevate my status to that of the masses here at ls1tech. So please elucidate when my literary style is pomp or just jest, I wouldn't want to be considered an elitist.
You wouldn't want to be considered an elitist? Such heart-warming modesty... Please, stop. You are a king who has laid his crown to feast among the people he rules out on the fields. How humble... You are in a class of your own.

If this doesn't enact a public acknowledgement on their part of misleading advertisement, wait till you see phase two. Au Revior
On behalf of whom? It should most definitely enact such open acknowledgement... particularly, the rise of STS owners, which includes you. Why don't you write to them? Stand up for yourself, sir!

Why did you get an STS? Was their misleading pitch a factor?

Phase Two? Nothing illegal, right?
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omg..this is some of the funniest **** i've ever read.

onephatZ28, what do you do for a living? i hope its something that is putting your great intellectual talent to use.

considering your previous conjecture on 'turbo math' was completely inaccurate..does it ever cross your mind that everything you say or think might be just as inaccurate? and yet you still debate as if you 'know' something.

the unibomber had a 170 tested IQ...Richard Feyman had an IQ tested I believe to be at 124...what does your alleged triple digit mensa level IQ prove exactly? its likely just as inflated as your turbo numbers.
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Relax bboy,

Phase two is only longer essay's for the amusement of others. Phase three can only be appreciated at a geek level mensa status so posts on LS1tech would stop, and the beginning of arguing another ridicules cause would follow.

One thing about the underpriviledged, statistically they offer more to acedemia than those who are born rich. This is because affluent upbringings often times do not set off an internal mechanim to aspire. I began as underpriviledged and can better understand how the above theory is correct...so it is an honor to trade wits with an english teacher that prioritizes the growth of others rather than to his or her own financial status; noble.
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Originally Posted by onephatZ28
Relax bboy,

Phase two is only longer essay's for the amusement of others. Phase three can only be appreciated at a geek level mensa status so posts on LS1tech would stop, and the beginning of arguing another ridicules cause would follow.
Well, now, Phase Three would certainly leave us missing your presence but with the consolation of your lasting impression. Good luck with all of your phases.

One thing about the underpriviledged, statistically they offer more to acedemia than those who are born rich.
Well, now, let's leave the sidelong discourse aside, now that we're speaking humbly, straight and true, and instead speak though the vulnerablilities of authenticity. I wholeheartedly agree with that sentiment and am impressed with you by the fact that it's yours to have been said.

This is because affluent upbringings often times do not set off an internal mechanim to aspire. I began as underpriviledged and can better understand how the above theory is correct
Hurrah! Bravo, sir! I hope I'm not going out on a limb, but I'd venture to pose the idea that the overprivileged not only lack this, but function under a dynamic that causes them to fail, not financially, but in the path to individuation.

Correct Theory? Absolutely... And not becuase I said so.

so it is an honor to trade wits with an english teacher that prioritizes the growth of others rather than to his or her own financial status; noble.
I hope I am not naive in taking that as a compliment, so I'll accept it as straight and true. I'll never consider myself noble, but rather as traveling in the direction of nobility, which may be noble in itself. Good luck with your STS. Once you look past its shortcomings, it can be enjoyed. It is by many users here who enjoy some good numbers and some good ET's.



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