View Poll Results: What would you pay for a 100% complete kit, thats it.
$5,000
19
28.36%
$6000
25
37.31%
$7000
11
16.42%
$8000-10,000
12
17.91%
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POLL: TT kit for the F-Body
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Originally Posted by XJGPN
When did they start making on-center T3 housings?
Off topic but mitsubishi turbos factory on SyTY's and some Scoobie Doos. There are alot of variations.
Check this odd ball out.. Nissan T3 housing
http://www.redz31.com/pages/turboupgrade.html
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What does the incon housing look like when layed out like the above pictured ones?
I dont think Incon had anything special made they just got a special made for x car company by garret components that just happened to fit.
I dont think Incon had anything special made they just got a special made for x car company by garret components that just happened to fit.
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Originally Posted by V8_DSM_V8again
What does the incon housing look like when layed out like the above pictured ones?
I dont think Incon had anything special made they just got a special made for x car company by garret components that just happened to fit.
I dont think Incon had anything special made they just got a special made for x car company by garret components that just happened to fit.
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Originally Posted by Geo.
8-10K, but only if you could get a C.A.R.B. E.O. and keep A/C.
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Originally Posted by slow
you can't get CARB certification on a TT kit for the LS1 due to the locaton of the factory cats.
Ryan
Ryan
OEM's with TT and standard models have two different cat systems.. The TT car needed some tricks to get the cats up to temp quick to keep the EPA happy.
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Originally Posted by peter@aps
In order to obtain a CARB EO for an aftermarket twin turbo system the original factory cats must be retained in the original factory cat position.
Peter
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Companies like Audi have had to come up with ways to get even those little precats to get hot quicker on turbo models. They just dont get up to temp as quick with the turbine in the path..
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Originally Posted by slow
you can't get CARB certification on a TT kit for the LS1 due to the locaton of the factory cats.
Ryan
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5.0 mustang factory cat locations were in such a place where they could be retainded with a turbo kit.
On the 2000+ F-cars, both cats are so far up on the motor, that I don't see any way to retain it, possibly on the 98-99 cars, the factory passenger cat could remain in the same position.
All car manufacturers have compromises in the calibration to get the cats to lightoff quickly. Without going very far into the technical specs, they need to lightoff a 70 degree ambient temp cat to 600 degrees in 20 seconds, higher RPM startup for the initial start times, as well as spark retard to push heat into the cats are just part of the equation.
Ryan
On the 2000+ F-cars, both cats are so far up on the motor, that I don't see any way to retain it, possibly on the 98-99 cars, the factory passenger cat could remain in the same position.
All car manufacturers have compromises in the calibration to get the cats to lightoff quickly. Without going very far into the technical specs, they need to lightoff a 70 degree ambient temp cat to 600 degrees in 20 seconds, higher RPM startup for the initial start times, as well as spark retard to push heat into the cats are just part of the equation.
Ryan
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Interesting! I had never seen a requirement for lightoff time vs temp spelled out like that. When I did a web search on the cold vehicle start I didn't really find much info. The beauracracy involving this is tough to wade through.
Pretty sure that the Incon spec for the catted y-pipe had the passenger side in the stock location, and the drivers side was moved a little, but not far (pretty much right on the drivers side turbo). Not sure how many ran that setup though, probably not many. The passenger side is way further from the manifold than the drivers, so maybe there is some slack in the original factory spec.
Makes me wonder if Incon knew they wouldn't pass all along, or if they had something else up their sleeves. Guess we'll never know.
Sorry for the thread hijack.
Pretty sure that the Incon spec for the catted y-pipe had the passenger side in the stock location, and the drivers side was moved a little, but not far (pretty much right on the drivers side turbo). Not sure how many ran that setup though, probably not many. The passenger side is way further from the manifold than the drivers, so maybe there is some slack in the original factory spec.
Makes me wonder if Incon knew they wouldn't pass all along, or if they had something else up their sleeves. Guess we'll never know.
Sorry for the thread hijack.
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Originally Posted by mahhddgtp
I'd pay $5,500-$6,000 for an incon-like kit that keeps A/C, P/S, etc etc and had turbos like the GTBB-37's
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