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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:49 PM
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I was talking with a local company that does powder coating and ceramic coating about getting my shorty headers and crossover pipe coated.I wanted to do powder coating cause its cheaper and im not looking for it too be all pretty and perfect.Anyways,he said he HAS to do ceramic on the headers due to the heat but he can probably do powder coating on the crossover pipe becuase the heat isnt as intense.Apparently powder coating is only good to 600-700 degrees.So my question is, is it ok to get the crossover pipe powder coated or will it get too hot???Thanks Nick
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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°F or °C on that rating?

Either case, I'm betting you'll see more than that in the crossover.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 01:59 PM
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Go Ceramic for everything... Powder coating will burn off.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 02:38 PM
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see if you can pm n20 dave on this board he does ceramic and powder coating I talked to him yesterday about almost the same questions on my kit he can help you out
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 05:15 PM
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Sorry i was generalizing too much,that was degrees F.Id really hate to get the crossover ceramic becuase of its size,thats gonna be pricey,maybe i should look into an alternative for that part,since the headers are mainly whats prone to cracking.
Dr.X what did he say to you in that regard?im gonna shoot him a pm anywho.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 07:10 PM
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ttt guys where are all of you experienced fellow members out there???
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by ddnspider
Sorry i was generalizing too much,that was degrees F.Id really hate to get the crossover ceramic becuase of its size,thats gonna be pricey,maybe i should look into an alternative for that part,since the headers are mainly whats prone to cracking.
Dr.X what did he say to you in that regard?im gonna shoot him a pm anywho.
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if your headers are prone to cracking dont get them ceramic coating, cause each time you have to weld and fix a crack you have to clean off all that coating near the weld, then you have the option of recoating that section or not.
best just leave the headers like they are, and get the x-over coated.
another option is to shoot the xover with high temp paint and wrap it with exhaust rap to hold the heat in, a bit cheaper.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 07:33 PM
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Thats very true.I "Hope" my headers arent going to crack....Theyre JBA shortys,plus i have a set of 01 stockers i could always bolt on if they do end up cracking.My main reason for the coating wasnt for looks but mainly to prevent cracks as well as keep the underhood temps down.Main concern is underhood temps.
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We have several powder coatings that are designed for high heat applications, one in particular that's good up to 1000 degrees. generally a standard powder coating will be good to around 450-500 degrees sustained without failure but the crossover will see more than that. I would not powder coat headers ever. If anything I could do the crossover in the high temp black. That would hold up just fine.

I do not want to post prices as we are not a sponsor yet although I am going to contact the administrator about becoming one. I will e-mail you some prices. The ceramic may not be as bad as you think.
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Old Jan 4, 2006 | 08:44 PM
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The local shop wanted $200 just for the shorty headers So as you could imagine i wasnt too thrilled seeing as how the crossover is even bigger than the headers.Now i cant decide what makes more sense;get the headers coated and just wrap the crossover or get the crossover coated and not the headers etc....if anyone wants to post how they like their coating or what they have etc id appreciate it.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 05:34 AM
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have you got the cross over quoted yet? genarlly it is cheaper to have the crossover coated because its a simplier design, while the headers have all these tubes welded together.

id run the headers uncoated for a season and see if they crack or not. if they dont you could get them coated.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 07:06 AM
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Yeah crossover would cost a benjamin,Shippings my only concern,as i could see it costing more than local due to shipping.ill have to figure that out.
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Old Jan 5, 2006 | 03:49 PM
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as dave had said he's not a sponsor yet so I won't go into to much detail but for my tubing to be coated and bead blasted on other parts as well as coating the turbo housing it wasn't a whole lot more than your header price and trust me the work I saw at the shop was phoneminal
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