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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 08:27 AM
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what kinda numbers can i reliably - daily or regular driver - get out of a pump gas twin turbo ls1, think 600 is too much to ask? yeah i dont know the specifics, but i need to start somewhere, someone help me out, i can read everyone elses builds, but they leave so much info out like usuability, reliability, daily driving mpg, what kinda gas they are runnin. just need a starting point.
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:41 AM
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are you doing a low CR built engine?
i did 512rwhp on 94 octane like 3 years ago

most now can get 500rwhp on pump with stockish engine
and 600rwhp on built with not to much work.
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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You're wanting 600rwhp out of a tt kit?? Man you can easily get that out of a single kit...It depends what kind of kit but if you had more info at what you're looking at...Gas mileage isn't going to be affected THAT much if you are able to keep your foot out of it..Remember you're only hitting 600hp at a set rpm...If you keep the rpms low during daily driving you can keep away from the gas stations...Well atleast every other stop...Is 600hp what you're shooting for to have on the street or is that your max goal?? The tt would probably build the boost a little quicker which would be nice but it's not necessary to reach your goals...If you can give a little more info as far as what YOU want then I'm positive someone could help you out even better...some of the things that you need to ask yourself is first of all price, what kind of usage, if you want log or headers, and other stuff like that...If TT is a must there are several companies that are offering them for different applilcations...I believe you're not building a normal car right?? It's like an over grown go cart...So you might have to do some finangiling on the Dp and cold piping but these are all of the questions that you need to ask...Those things you can have a shop build custom for you...I know that getting 6.0 manifolds are getting popular (or should I say has been)....You could probably do a TT kit based off of something from that...Just get the flanges and turbos and then have the piping welded up...it's kind of hard to give a dead set answer because what you want may not be what someone else has you know...But if you want a dead set reliable kit that won't crack easily I would say fab the 6.0 manifolds..
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:33 PM
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thanks for the information, i know i dont know exactly what im talking about here, so ill just detail my goals.

at least 600 rwhp, 700 or just below, say around 665, 666, hahaha, because i love metal music and it would be nice to see on a dyno for kicks, but between 600 and 700 at the rear and i will be a happy man. i want a twin turbo set up for cosmetic and space reasons, i want it to be reliable, run on pump gas. milage isnt a huge concern, but i simply would like to have an idea of what id be getting. if i need to put money and parts into the motor, so be it. simply though, a twin turbo motor that is reliable, will put down 6-700 rw, and run on pump gas, thats it. i have that, im a happy man for a long time. budget isnt much of a factor the drivetrain will be going in a car ill want to keep for a long time, so ill simply spec out what i need and save until i can afford to buy it, yaknow what i mean? id rather do it properly, ive contacted a few people with twin turbo setups that are putting down the numbers i want for specs and tips and but nothing back so far. any info would be apreciated in terms of parts i would need. if i really want more power out of it later - doubtful - im sure by then ill be far enough along that my questions wont be so uninformed. thanks
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:41 PM
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i know alot of whats going to be going into the super seven as they are called will be custom, and thats fine, honestly id rather take a year to build it myself than spend the extra money bolting one on, and the fact is, nothings gonna bolt on to this and work properly, im fairly particular, so hahaha, i can always find someone with skills to help me do it, but i do need to know whats parts i would need, and how they work together, my knowledge is fairly rudimentary in terms of forced induction systems, but i know i can work it all out if im given a part list or build sheet from someone elses project and go, whats this do? whats this do? whats this do? or simply look up all the parts and take notes, to me its fairly simple learning how the system works -

first identify all parts of the system
then define how they work individually, what they do
then one understands how the system flows

so really i am need of knowing what parts i should be using to make this engine put down those numbers on pump gas reliably, thats about it
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 12:47 PM
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Originally Posted by super777
and space reasons
What kind of car is this going on? If your talking about an F-body, there isn't much space at all, and I don't believe their is a TT system out there that retains some of the ammenities
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He's not talking about an F-body...He's talking about a big go cart looking thing...It's pretty awesome from the pictures that I've seen...that's why I said that he could put the GMR TT kit on there with the T61's and call it a day...Obviously have some custom piping but that kit is sooo close in together that it would most likely fit pretty easily...
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by 2002 Trans Am
What kind of car is this going on? If your talking about an F-body, there isn't much space at all, and I don't believe their is a TT system out there that retains some of the ammenities
im not sure what you mean by retains some of those amenities

it would be going into either a wcm ultralite s2k modified to fit, or a stalker built to fit. not sure which, but as costly as its looking, i may end up going the ultralite root.

ill have to look into that kit, i really like the idea of running the piping all outside the engine though, pita for mainenence, but i dont care, it would be insane looking, and keep stuff cooler, and make plumping easier. glad someone thinks its a cool idea beside my buddy from england, startin to get lonely.
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:35 PM
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Originally Posted by 98turbls1
He's not talking about an F-body...He's talking about a big go cart looking thing...It's pretty awesome from the pictures that I've seen...that's why I said that he could put the GMR TT kit on there with the T61's and call it a day...Obviously have some custom piping but that kit is sooo close in together that it would most likely fit pretty easily...
dohh! oh ok

I meant AC when I was referring to ammenities
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Old Jan 7, 2006 | 01:44 PM
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nahh, not worried, heating, ac, i dont even think those things need power steering, maybe im wrong, but if they dont, i wont use it, id like to keep it as simple as possible, it will complicated enough as is, hahahah
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