Anyone though about or made a Turbo 302 LS1?
#21
Originally Posted by ABeasst
the goal is to be able to use a smaller turbo so you wont have the lag of a T88 for say 900rwhp. a 302 w/ a T76GTS should be able to make 900 and spool a little quicker than a T88. I prolly wouldnt do this setup but it just popped in my head over easter.
Saying you'll destroke it to be able to turn more revs is a load of baloney as well. You're going to be limited by your camshaft primarily with how high you can rev, not how long the stroke is. We have a motor going into a friends car here that's 414 inches (4.125 x 3.875) that carries power to 8000 RPM's with a big solid roller cam. Stroke is basically a non-issue when it comes to how high you can turn a motor nowadays.
#23
Id build the best combo to achieve the absolute best rod to stroke ratio. I would think that maximizing the efficiency of the internals would be better than just trying to get the most cubes out of it. A huge stroker with boost to me just sounds like serious cylinder pressure boost & r/s ratio. Sure you could get big power but for how long? A smaller engine w/ a perfect r/s will have less stress on it, you might have to run more boost to make the power but it will hold it and last longer. And has less rotating mass. the boost will make up for the torque loss. How fast it heats up has nothing to do with it. And the way it reacts in a heavy/light car is all up to how you set it up, converter, gears, ect..
And saying stroke makes no difference on how high an engine can rev, true, but it does determine how long you can rev it.
And saying stroke makes no difference on how high an engine can rev, true, but it does determine how long you can rev it.
#25
Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
Id build the best combo to achieve the absolute best rod to stroke ratio. I would think that maximizing the efficiency of the internals would be better than just trying to get the most cubes out of it. A huge stroker with boost to me just sounds like serious cylinder pressure boost & r/s ratio. Sure you could get big power but for how long? A smaller engine w/ a perfect r/s will have less stress on it, you might have to run more boost to make the power but it will hold it and last longer. And has less rotating mass. the boost will make up for the torque loss. How fast it heats up has nothing to do with it. And the way it reacts in a heavy/light car is all up to how you set it up, converter, gears, ect..
I deal with a lot of Hondas, and somehow they got started big on rod/stroke ratios. B16 motors run a 77.4mm stroke with a 134mm connecting rod. 1.73:1 rod/stroke ratio. B18A/B motors run an 89mm stroke with a 137mm connecting rod, for a 1.54:1 rod/stroke ratio. Fairly significant difference, but do the B16's make a better turbo motor? Nope. I built a motor for a friend who is turning 10000 RPM's all day long with a 92mm stroker crank and the B18B length rods, for a supposedly poor rod/stroke ratio of 1.49:1. This motor made just over 760 WHP on C16 and around 450 WHP on pump gas, and sees a lot of street miles. We took it down before this season to freshen it up, and the bearings and cylinder walls looked no worse after about 12K miles than the B16 he had the year before that was making ~690 WHP on race gas.
Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
And saying stroke makes no difference on how high an engine can rev, true, but it does determine how long you can rev it.