View Poll Results: How much should a turbo kit like this cost?
Up to $4,000
79
19.32%
$4,000 - $5,000
105
25.67%
$5,000 - $6,000
111
27.14%
$6,000 - $7,000
63
15.40%
$7,000 - $8,000
27
6.60%
$8,000 and Higher
24
5.87%
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POLL: What do you think is a fair price for a turbo kit?
10-08-2006, 04:58 PM
#121
Pwrtrip75: You do have a good point. If you have the time, tools, and skill you can fab up your own kit and save some money. Alot of the people who want to go FI do not have those things. They just want to purchase a kit, and install it. That is where the shops come in. We have to account for overhead and expenses that go beyond just the prices of parts. Then there is time involved in building the kits. Time is money.
10-08-2006, 10:35 PM
#122
Even if you did the research and find out what you want (which everyone should do anyway), find the stuff you need and have someone do it thats capable, you'd save thousands. Your paying out the azz just for someone to put the few components together that they say will work.
10-08-2006, 11:26 PM
#123
Originally Posted by pwrtrip75
Even if you did the research and find out what you want (which everyone should do anyway), find the stuff you need and have someone do it thats capable, you'd save thousands. Your paying out the azz just for someone to put the few components together that they say will work.
Look at the mustangs turbo kits... start at about $3000 and up. They include turbo and all that good ****. Why cant they do that for our cars?
10-09-2006, 02:14 AM
#124
The mustang guys have a much larger aftermarket than the LS1 guys. I started with the Mustangs. Heck look at the blower kits for the Fords. You can get a new Vortech S-trim for $2900 complete. Go price one fro the LS1 f-Body, $4800.
All I am getting at is that The Turbo shops have their place in the market. I plan to offer a kit that will include the Turbo, WG, BOV, Hot parts, Cold parts, FMIC, and all the coupling and clamps to put it all together. I even plan to offer the Manifolds if needed. I am doing my best to keep my Price below $5500 Shipped and maintain a decent profit.
All I am getting at is that The Turbo shops have their place in the market. I plan to offer a kit that will include the Turbo, WG, BOV, Hot parts, Cold parts, FMIC, and all the coupling and clamps to put it all together. I even plan to offer the Manifolds if needed. I am doing my best to keep my Price below $5500 Shipped and maintain a decent profit.
10-10-2006, 03:24 AM
#125
I’m curious… how much of a markup over their cost do you think a shop has to charge to really be viable? Seems like some of the totals that you guys are adding up/coming up with are pretty close to rock bottom, best of the heap deals on parts (or possibly even used parts from the prices that you’re listing), and yea, you’re coming up with a reasonable total if you did it yourself, but you’re not figuring for any real profit for the shop except for maybe their labor time on the actual parts.
10-23-2006, 11:13 PM
#126
I can say this much. Profit is going to part of any shop that plans to stay open. My overhead is low. I can comfortably offer a kit that is 90% complete for well under $5000 and still retain a decent level of profitability to keep me open. I won't even require a deposit or down payment.
10-24-2006, 09:03 AM
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it seems like this has become twisted a bit. bare bones kit, no fuel, tune or install should be about 5000 for a single in ss and 7000 for a turbo kit, 500rwhp and 700rwhp respectively. thats using t67, and twin t60 turbos. im planning on getting an ofi kit and only will be looking for 500rwhp on a stock block for the first year. with the price of the kit, im going to add 918 springs, fuel pump, injectors, catch can, ls2 timing chain...that extra stuff adds what, maybe 800 bucks? not everyone wants to start off wit ha 1000rwhp capable kit. i myself love the fact that the ofi kit can take either a t67 or go up to the gt42 or t80/t88 with no mods to the original kit. and they are selling hte kits for 5500 complete in stainless steel.
10-24-2006, 09:16 AM
#128
mustangs have a larger market? Thats because more people buy the stuff because its cheaper. LS1 stuff is all treated like gold so not to many people go that route. Lower the prices, sell more. Seriously why is it 3 times more for LS1 headers than any other car made? Why are hot side exhaust parts so expensive? Its nothing more complicated than headers. And yet ive seen just the hot piping for $2000. HaHA! you can have the best header maker in the country hand make you a set fit to your car for less than that. My headers and all hot piping on my car...Look in signature, cost less than $250 in material and 8 hours to make.
10-24-2006, 04:32 PM
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I've priced hotsides before and they always came in between $800 and $1500 for the headers and crossover. I think $2,000 is high.
You guys tend not to factor in profit when you talk about kits. Not everyone is set up to buy in bulk and then crank out 50 kits and wait for the orders to come in.
What did the Incon LS1 kits originally sell for?
You guys tend not to factor in profit when you talk about kits. Not everyone is set up to buy in bulk and then crank out 50 kits and wait for the orders to come in.
What did the Incon LS1 kits originally sell for?
10-25-2006, 04:48 AM
#133
John: I need to get in touch with you about sponsoring the board.
To everyone else in the market for a budget turbo kit, don't worry. I have you guys covered. I just have to finalize my setup and website.
To everyone else in the market for a budget turbo kit, don't worry. I have you guys covered. I just have to finalize my setup and website.
10-25-2006, 11:04 PM
#136
Another reason prices on hot piping is so high is the material people select. Look into the options, structual integrity, price... My headers I made are the same weight as factory manifolds, All 304 SS and will hold the weight of the engine if need be with out cracking or breaking. A 1 7/8 .109 thick 90* elbow 304 SS I found cost $4.50 (anyone can get) vs. the normal SS tubing (.060 thick) everyone else uses at 4 times the price for 1 elbow, and very prone to fatigue and cracking if not structualy supported properly. (more money to make all the braces). that seems like the wrong stuff to be using to me. The constant fluctuation of heat/pressure and vibrations on SS tubing is the worse, especially if it is supporting something.
11-28-2006, 10:07 PM
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APS F Body intercooled twin turbo system Just a quick heads up. APS will release a full production F Body intercooled twin turbo system in mid 07. The twin turbo system will be very comprehensive and include ductile iron cast turbo exhaust manifolds, pair of liquid cooled 500 HP turbos, twin external 38 mm Tial wastegates, large air to air intercooler, all stainless steel intercooler tubing, silicone hose couplers, high quality stainless steel fasteners and complete with comprehensive install instructions. The price of this highly engineered system will be a very pleasant surprise for all F Body enthusiasts. 
A link to other APS GM twin turbo systems below, this will give you guys an idea as to the completeness of the APS twin turbo systems.
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/corvette/c5.htm
Peter
A link to other APS GM twin turbo systems below, this will give you guys an idea as to the completeness of the APS twin turbo systems.
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/corvette/c5.htm
Peter
11-29-2006, 02:08 PM
#138
Originally Posted by peter@aps
Just a quick heads up. APS will release a full production F Body intercooled twin turbo system in mid 07. The twin turbo system will be very comprehensive and include ductile iron cast turbo exhaust manifolds, pair of liquid cooled 500 HP turbos, twin external 38 mm Tial wastegates, large air to air intercooler, all stainless steel intercooler tubing, silicone hose couplers, high quality stainless steel fasteners and complete with comprehensive install instructions. The price of this highly engineered system will be a very pleasant surprise for all F Body enthusiasts.
A link to other APS GM twin turbo systems below, this will give you guys an idea as to the completeness of the APS twin turbo systems.
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/corvette/c5.htm
Peter
A link to other APS GM twin turbo systems below, this will give you guys an idea as to the completeness of the APS twin turbo systems.
http://www.airpowersystems.com.au/corvette/c5.htm
Peter
WOW... now if you could keep them in stock and keep up with demands, youd have one hell of a profitable item. I think you should make your own thread about it instead of buring here.
11-29-2006, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
WOW... now if you could keep them in stock and keep up with demands, youd have one hell of a profitable item. I think you should make your own thread about it instead of buring here.
Peter
11-29-2006, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Country Boy
WOW... now if you could keep them in stock and keep up with demands, youd have one hell of a profitable item.
Peter