Hmmm Quick, you make good points... I guess I will restate my original. The raw materials price is 1/2 of the assembled, CARB approved, tested and proven kit. There are a few things I think you missed to include wiring, resistors (hope you know the correct amp so that the Oil pump cycles at the right speed, and warns you of failure) and you quoted the only turbo company that Jose refuses to carry due to poor quality (MP).

You are right about TRT... he took great care of me and continues to do so. And I would always reccomend him to anyone looking to go STS.

I think that (speaking strictly from my prospective) the completed kit sold by Bob at EPP, Brad at FFHP, Billy at TRT, etc... is worth the extra money simply due to knowing that you have all the right parts.... connectors... peices... oh and only 1/3 of the labor (assuming you just buy the kit and install yourself). And you know it will work when you put it all on....

I hate the postion I am in... I dislike the company (STS) but I respect the product as a easy, low $ way into 400-600RWHP FI. Like BadBoy said... dont buy the minimum if you even for a second think you like speed... cause you will end up rebuying more to support your growing habbit.

"Hi, my name is Jared... I am an FI addict"

 

I say you get it... Personnaly I really like the system and I want one myself. I raced a convertable TA (ls1) with an STS, and he ran a 12.5 vs. my 12.7 with a Procharger, and thats half a second faster than he was with his old Vortech setup... Just get it and prove all of UMCA wrong!

 

Hey, bro. Didnt know you were on here. Have you noticed that the UMCA are the only people talking about reliability issues. I havnt heard of an reliablility issue, yet, on this board. Its like the kit is half-assed according to UMCA. We all know that the kit doesnt make as much power as some of the others...Id rather live with that then a blown motor though!

 

make no mistakes.. the kit isn't what blows motors.. its boost.. and you can get just as greedy with a rear mount as you can with a front mount system.. the engine doesn't give a monkeys *** where the pressure is coming from..lol if you run lean, too much timing, too hot, and detonate... your pistons will be the proof in the pudding.

that said.. are you an automatic or are you an M6 car? if you are an M6 car, the STS will be easier to track as with any turbo car, auto's are what get ya ET's. in any event, boost is going to be fun to drive.. but the temptation to turn that dial up gets all of us eventually.. no one thinks it will happen to them until it does.. so be forewarned that any forced induction is going to warrant a rebuild with better internals at some point.. not a matter of if, just a matter of when... you get used to the power..... you look at the **** ..... you turn the ****..... ......... you mash the gas... ....... you go faster... it feels good... you know you shouldn't turn it anymore...,. but it keeps staring at you...... and you turn it again.... and all is well.... then it all falls apart and it breaks.... then your bitten.. you know that you must build a better shortblock and turn the **** until it twists off the controller... you are a boost addict and the more you push the happier you are and it doesn't matter what you break or how many times, there must be more boost....lol its a viscious cycle... and its fun! and if ya think you won't want more... ask yourself why you truly are even looking at this kit in the first place.... you want more power.. it only gets worse the more you get.. each second faster is another benchmark to reach, another goal, another exhilerating rush and accomplishment... nothing wrong with it.. thats why we are in here.. if no one wanted more power these boards would be filled with oil change tips and spark plug recommendations.

Chris

 

That is so true! I couldn't have said it better myself!

 

the biggest thing that scars me about the re-mount kit is driving in the rain. i know they now come with a baffle or shield but, with a upgraded turbo you suck even more air. i think if got one i wouldn't drive in the rain.

 

with that much power on tap only idiots will be pushing boost in the rain.. your tires will be like ice skates and you will find yourself in oncoming traffic before ya know it or in a ditch.. that being said, most cold air kits suck up just as much rain as a rear mount turbo would and no one really cares or takes major precautions on those... at least you have a sock and can shield it for rain driving if its a must on this kit. not really a huge fan, but thats just really not something I would consider to be a major issue.. besides most on here pay big bucks for water/meth injection how different do you think it really is.. its not like your trying to cross a lake with it and I always avoid puddles regardless and my filter is tucked up in the engine bay.. I WISH I could get it closer to the cold rushing air under the car!

Chris

 

The guys on here that sell STS kits like TRT, EPP, and FFHP seem to put together great packages (no question). I just wanted to show that any DIY person can easily put together a better kit than the base STS for MUCH cheaper.

As far as MP's go, nothing has been mentioned by anyone else except Jose about MP's being bad. I follow turbomustangs.com and many a mustang there are still buying and running MP turbos. IMO, I follow that site the closest as there are probably 4 times as many turbo mustangs with these turbos than fbodies.

Goodluck on your big rearmount build (shooting for 900rwhp), I look forward to pics and success.

Jon

 

great posts lcvette! I use my truck off road and have no water issues, granted im not lake crossing either. I even go through an underneath automatic car wash no prob.

 

Nice post LCVETTE!! LMAO. So true. That is the way with any kind of power. Im thinking that I am going to give the STS system a shot. Sure, I could make more power with Nitrous....but it is just push button fun. I want it on tap..when I want it. Thanks for all your help, fellas!