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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 03:05 PM
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they wouldn't need to do that, as if you put the OEM electronics into a larger housing, it will work fine. You have to scale the tables accordingly, and calculations pretty much make it a perfect scale (cross sectional area) of the 85mm vs 100mm. It doesn't look like the OEM LSX internals, but I'd bet it is out of a similar GM product.

One of the Ford MAF manufactureres told me the electronics of the Ford isn't compatible with the GM ECM.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 03:24 PM
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I understand you would have to tune for it i am just looking for a little more room to still use a maf. would like to run 10 lbs but i am right about at the limit of my maf right now. funny how similar it is to a cobra maf if it isnt i know they are either 4 wire or 6 wire with IAT sensor.
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave F
they wouldn't need to do that, as if you put the OEM electronics into a larger housing, it will work fine. You have to scale the tables accordingly, and calculations pretty much make it a perfect scale (cross sectional area) of the 85mm vs 100mm. It doesn't look like the OEM LSX internals, but I'd bet it is out of a similar GM product.

One of the Ford MAF manufactureres told me the electronics of the Ford isn't compatible with the GM ECM.
Ford uses a 0-5 volt output voltage, instead of a HZ value. One could build a converter box, and then use a Ford maf on a GM car,

I have tested a Ford Lightning maf on my 98 TA, with a converter box, and it did work. I never put it on the dyno to try to tune though.

2003-4 cobras, and 2001-2004 Lightnings do not have an integrated IAT sensor, however, the smaller meters with that plug style do, (GT, 2001 cobra) as does the SCT BA2400/2800 meters.

That meter does look ford ish, but I would guess it is off a high airflow vehicle (duramax maybe? )

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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 08:27 PM
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OK, now that I have fuel pressure, car is running fine with the new MAF. Will have to hit the track before I can dial in the curves, but in my case, if I can get it to idle, everthing else is easy.

This seems to be a nice unit, and for a high rpm or high boost setup, I think this is well worth the $$$
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Old Sep 1, 2006 | 08:32 PM
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Just got mine in the mail today. Waiting on the new couplers from TRT to install it. It does look like the MAF sensor on my dads new duramax but I think for the housing and sensor 300 isnt to bad. Plus the plug and play harness is great for 20. Now lets see if I can make 650 on 10lbs. I also have some 60lb injectors on the way.
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:49 AM
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I dunno a whole lot about the programmin aspect of this whole thing but here is my question. Since the stock MAF is alot smaller then this one couldnt they have the 100mm calibrated the same way as the stocker? My reasonin for this is that if a stock MAF sees (makin up numbers cause i dunno WTF it reads) 10 lbs of air wouldnt a MAF that is 100mm think it sees 10 lbs of air but its actually 15? Makin it so that u coudl still use a MAF to tune? I hope yall can understand what im tryin to say. Cause i dunno a better way to say it lol. If what im thinkin is right then i woudl assume with a little fudging u could use this 100mm MAF to tune pretty high HP levels FI. Hope to hear some input. Thanks

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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 04:49 AM
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Thats the point in the bigger maf housing......Thats the only reason I am using one is to support more power. The air is just moving across the meter slower becouse its a bigger housing.
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 12:39 PM
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I thought it still read the exact amt of air that is passing it. In 1 of the earlier posts they said that the MAF is still limited to the 512 that the stocker is. And that that translated into about 650 hp. Ill definatly be gettin one of these if it works this well.

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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 02:18 PM
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can you post a link or sumtin where you can buy these??
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Old Sep 2, 2006 | 03:33 PM
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It still maxes out at the same frequecy it is just bigger so when the same air is going through a bigger housing i moves across the sensor slower so it reads at a lower frequecy. A tech at Ling. told me they have a shop car that is making 750whp with this meter and it is not pegged. Also I like it becouse it flows more without the screen and center piece than the stock sensor.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 05:16 AM
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That would be nice if i could tune 800 rwhp on a MAF to get it all perfect.

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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 07:56 AM
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i mean can u reduce it like an sts kit?were a 2 " charge pipe gos into the adapter for the 3.5" maf or will that mess up the flow and readings?how big is this thing?
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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The housing is 4". I have a 4" 90 silicon elbow coming off my TB then the MAF and then a silicon reducer from 4" to 3"
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:40 AM
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well for lets say 500 rwhp bluid should i go with 2.5" from the intercooler to the t-body or 3 "?will this maf be good for a 98 ecm?
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 09:44 AM
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yeah it will work with a 98 ecm. I would use 3" out of the intercooler but that is just me. I would just use the stock one till you are over 550whp.
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 02:13 PM
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can someone post A LINK or where i can buy this>>>> PLEASE.I looked on there site but didnt see it
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 02:20 PM
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Originally Posted by SuperZ
can someone post A LINK or where i can buy this>>>> PLEASE.I looked on there site but didnt see it
http://www.lingenfelter.com/store/lp..._lpe-4232.html
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 02:27 PM
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Thank you soo much.I guess Im just retarted and couldnt find it
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Old Sep 3, 2006 | 04:17 PM
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Do I need the one with the 12.00 o clock sensor position or 3.00 o clock
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Old Sep 4, 2006 | 09:56 AM
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12 oclock has the electrical fitting going front-to-rear, the 3 o clock has it coming out of the side. Use whichever matches your wiring best.
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