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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:51 AM
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New - Lingenfelter 100 MM Mass Air Flow Meter

The Lingenfelter high flow mass airflow sensor was designed as a replacement sensor for GM frequency type mass airflow sensor applications for LT1, LS1, C5 ZO6 and LS2 vehicles. This sensor also fits 1999-2006 Silverado, Sierra, Tahoe, Yukon, Escalade, H2 plus many other GM vehicles that use the frequency type MAF sensors
This is the same mass air flow sensor used in the LPE 600 hp and 725 hp 2005 -2006 C6 Corvette twin turbocharged engine packages. The LPE MAF solves the mass airflow signal drop out problem found on 2005-2006 C6 Corvettes that occurs under high airflow conditions. The large diameter, low restriction LPE 100 mm MAF sensor assembly provides accurate airflow measurement while producing very little restriction,
even at very high power levels. $299.95
several pics on website... more details as well

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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 09:58 AM
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What about the set PCM limit how does it get around that?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:04 AM
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Originally Posted by frcefed98
What about the set PCM limit how does it get around that?

It doesn't. It's still limited to 512g/s. The benefit is less pressure drop for high psi apps. Once you get up to 15psi, the stock screened maf shows 1.5 to 2.0 psi drop, this one doesn't.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:08 AM
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aahhh gotcha, i'll stick to SD.
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from the website:
This MAF sensor will NOT work with stock engine programming and requires recalibration of the factory PCM or ECM. The proper starting MAF sensor curve for most GM applications is supplied with the sensor but you will need EFILive, HPTuners, LS1/LT1/LS2 Edit, TunerCat or other similar software programs to recalibrate the MAF curve or have it done for you by a tuning shop or custom calibration company. The proper curves can be downloaded from the Lingenfelter web site under >store>product instructions.

This MAF sensor is recommended for supercharged, turbocharged and other high output engine applications. This MAF sensor is 4.00" in outer diameter. Custom ductwork will be needed to install this in most vehicle applications and is not included.

Sensor is sold under two part numbers be sure to select on or the other. LN4231 is for applications where the connector is at the 12:00 position and LN4232 is for connectors that are located at the 3:00 position.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:14 AM
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How does LPE use this 100mm MAF to get 725 hp if the 512 limit is still in place?
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 10:22 AM
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Originally Posted by bowtieman81
How does LPE use this 100mm MAF to get 725 hp if the 512 limit is still in place?

RPM vs PE for everybody using a maf over 512g/s. Which is roughly 650-670 engine hp so it's barely a stretch over the limit.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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I see. I also forgot LPE rates at crank hp (used to rwhp on here).
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This is the same MAF onfire posted pictures of a while back I'm sure.
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Old Aug 3, 2006 | 11:26 PM
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What does the computer do when it gets to 512g/s? How does the motor respond?
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it uses the fueling from the pe table and the last line of the spark table.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 07:26 AM
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This is a real issue on the LS2 Corvettes which we overcame by having a MAF recal'd locally.
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Old Aug 4, 2006 | 05:19 PM
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will this work with a 98 ecm?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:27 PM
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It will work with ANY LSX ECM, as long as you can program your own tables.

btw, I just put one on my race car, and it won't run. I think their tables are off, but haven't had time to play with it yet. I'll log some data and dial it up/down in the next day or two.
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:31 PM
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Originally Posted by Dave F
It will work with ANY LSX ECM, as long as you can program your own tables.

btw, I just put one on my race car, and it won't run. I think their tables are off, but haven't had time to play with it yet. I'll log some data and dial it up/down in the next day or two.

Does it have a rough idle? AF ratio lean?
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Old Aug 27, 2006 | 07:39 PM
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won't idle, no throttle response. Threw it on late yesterday, and haven't had time to log yet. Sorry to leave you hanging, but hope to log some data tomorrow, and see
1 If I'm getting a signal at all
2 If it is rich/lean.
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Originally Posted by Dave F
won't idle, no throttle response. Threw it on late yesterday, and haven't had time to log yet. Sorry to leave you hanging, but hope to log some data tomorrow, and see
1 If I'm getting a signal at all
2 If it is rich/lean.
Your car is so
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:23 AM
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disregard everything above. I just realized I have no fuel pressure. Will follow up on the MAF once I get my fuel pump working! Doh!
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 10:25 AM
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Originally Posted by Dave F
I just realized I have no fuel pressure.
That WILL make it run like ***!

Good luck!
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Old Aug 28, 2006 | 02:39 PM
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Are they just using Ford electronics in there own housing.... Looks just like some cobra meters I have seen apart.
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