APS Twin Turbo....thoughts???
https://ls1tech.com/forums/forced-induction/555463-first-pic-aps-c5-twin-intercooled-twin-turbo-system.html
I'm slightly dyslexic... oh, well.
They haven't posted pricing yet. Looks a lot like the LPE setup - visually.
Thanks for your opinion John.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555463
All your answers, including pricing info, are in there.
https://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=555463
All your answers, including pricing info, are in there.
But, I don't see definitive pricing in that thread....maybe I'm going blind?
Back on topic..... I LOVE the APS kit.. Its gonna be a monster..
Trending Topics
Dave
The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time
Currently there is not a kit available for the F-body. The C6 kits is completed and the C5 is shortly behind. Believe it or not they are working on an LS7 kit trying to work around the crappy pistons.
Anyone going to SEMA can check out there kit at there booth as it was shipped to Vegas a couple weeks ago.
I don't have the price sheet in front of me but will post the retail prices when I am back in the shop.
Currently there is not a kit available for the F-body. The C6 kits is completed and the C5 is shortly behind. Believe it or not they are working on an LS7 kit trying to work around the crappy pistons.
Anyone going to SEMA can check out there kit at there booth as it was shipped to Vegas a couple weeks ago.
I don't have the price sheet in front of me but will post the retail prices when I am back in the shop.
Will you do APS TT installs??
joel
The exciting news is that the MSRP for the APS C5 intercooled twin turbo system will be set at $7995 (that's much less than what I was expecting), that's for the complete intercooled twin turbo system (just add your own fuel system), which includes every nut, bolt and washer required for the twin turbo install.
Dave
When all you have now to work with is fabricated parts, a cast part, is much closer to what the OEM's would have used if they were building a turbo kit.
Ryan
VINCE - would it work well on a 427??
The exciting news is that the MSRP for the APS C5 intercooled twin turbo system will be set at $7995 (that's much less than what I was expecting), that's for the complete intercooled twin turbo system (just add your own fuel system), which includes every nut, bolt and washer required for the twin turbo install.
Paid $7,500 for a new, 100% complete kit minus fuel, gauges, and tuning..
At $11k+ it's finally installed and it's a gem... but you should know that it's gonna be @ least $10k and that's with cutting corners. (Not to mention labor) The devil's in the details. Just expect it.
Last edited by FIREHAWK#608; Oct 16, 2006 at 09:15 PM.
Peter
It's a very difficult process to return the turbo oil back into the oil pan on the C5 engine when going with the gravity drain oil return approach. You or the installer would need to drill and tap two holes into the engine block above engine oil level and this is extremely difficult to do with the engine in the car.
On the other hand when using a high quaility electric pump to return the turbo oil to the engine, the install is much easier/cleaner as the oil can be returned via the valve cover by simply removing the valve cover and drilling and tapping one hole and screwing in the drain return fitting and connecting the return hose. Job done and you don't need to worry about any swarf getting inside the engine, all good.
I'd say that fitting the electric oil pump including running the oil lines and installing the return fitting into the valve cover would be a 75 minute install approx where as drilling and tapping 2 drain holes in the block or oil pan for a gravity drain system would take at least 5 hours, maybe longer. On the electric oil pump durability issue our engineering team ran the electric oil pump for 336 hours without rest (the pump got very warm though the oil return performance never altered) and measured the oil return performance, the oil return volume was virtaully unchanged after this gruelling oil pump durability test. In addition our engineering guys conducted testing with the oil return pump, 8 hours running then 2 hours rest, for over 2 weeks to heat cycle the oil pump from cold to hot, cold to hot, cold to hot, etc, etc. This durability test went on for another 300 odd hours so I can confidently say that the APS electric oil return pump can easily cope with long 700 to 1000 mile trips without any worry or stress over the long term, hope that helps.
Peter



