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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 09:17 PM
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i been trying to think about this for awhile before posting to see if it would actually make sense.Im sure some of you have seen the Zex nitrous air filter;its a purple cone style filter with a nitrous line jetted and attached to the top of the filter.What would be the affects of spraying through the filter attached to the intake side on the turbo?Air gets compressed going through that wheel so the nitrous would get compressed with it,which i would think would cool the turbo and really cool the air coming out of the turbo.....But I figure either it wouldnt do much,itd blow the turbo,or it would really cool the air going into the system and do a bit of good.What's your opinion?
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:19 PM
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I don't see how you could properly tune for the dry shot. Those are designed to spray through a maf, which is usually maxed out or ditched in favor of sd with a turbo setup.
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Old Oct 16, 2006 | 10:28 PM
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I think it would be similar to an IC sprayer.. Just make cooler air go through the charge... Small power gains.. Not a big fan of the idea.. I would just set up a tradiational N20 system.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 07:07 AM
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spray AFTER the intercooler! that way you will see the power gain of the shot, and the cooling power of the N2O. this normaly means about twice the power of the shot (ie a 50shot should net you around 75-100bhp). also it would be easier to tune if you know that the whole shot is going into the intake rather than some not getting there(coming back off the filter).

thanks Chris.

PS best place to stick the fillter is in the cold air stream! and this is much cheaper than trying to make up for a bad filter location with a shot of N2O.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 09:28 AM
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it would still go through the maf.And it would be different than freezing the FMIC.itd basically cool the turbo because it would suck in "super cooled air" and it would cool the air from the start instead of down stream.I dunno just sounds like it might make it work it.For example,nitrous in gas form is below freezing,getting it sucked into the turbo would cool the compressor side quite a bit while keeping the air going through and out relatively cold.Nitrous would be mixed very well with the air because it was just compressed,then after the turbo the air would stay colder through the fmic or just straight into the motor.The air going in the motor would be really dense due to obviously boost,and 2ndly being mixed well and evenly with the nitrous due to the turbo.I dunno,sounds like it would work well in my head....
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 10:45 AM
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If your compressed air is 200 degrees and spraying n2o drops it 25 degrees you now have 175 degree air entering your i/c. If your intercooler drops temps to 10 above ambient and it's 75 degrees out you now have 85 degree air.

If the temps drop below ambient before the intercooler and then pass through the i/c you now have an interheater LOL

If you spray the n2o after the intercooler and drop the temps 25 degrees you now have 60 degree air... cooler than ambient.

Best use is after the i/c.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:10 AM
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from what you just said if the air drops below ambient before the FMIC...than wouldnt that eliminate the need for an FMIC and you more pressure drop because of it?anyways,it was just an idea.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:35 AM
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I definitely see your point...It's well worth an experiment at least...You may try like a 25 shot just to see if there are any positive effects but if there are any adverse effects than it wouldn't hurt as much as a bigger shot... Good thinking though...

P.S. If people don't try to expand their minds on new things than they'll never learn...
Turbos, superchargers, and nitrous were all 100 years ago new and questionable means of making power.... Once it became popular people wondered why they didn't use them long before...hahahha...That's just the way it is...
You could be a pioneer and do the research for us... =)
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 11:55 AM
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If you really wanted a good effect from this, ditch the dry shot. Spray a wet shot, but use a separate fuel system with methanol fueling for the nitrous. That would take care of tuning problems, add a little octane rating, and cool the hell out of IAT's.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 01:30 PM
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i started thinking about that when you said dry shot.I was thinking that a wet should would work amazingly ....so long as compressing the fuel wouldnt have an adverse affect on the turbo(ie blow it up) because whats the goal for a nitrous kit?To atomize the fuel with the nitrous and air to make it dense.....you cant possibly get it more dense or mixed together than by compressing it,say through a turbo
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 01:39 PM
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many ppl inject alky and water into the turbo compressor side or blower and works well, i used to dothis on an old p600b i had for a blo-thru sbc
it worked really well and and the power increase was really noticeable, i rigged to activate with a hobbs switch set at 7psi, but iwas did not have an intercooler, idk about n20 but the water/alky injection works for sure
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 01:41 PM
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hmmm....anyone without an FMIC wanna try? im curious if Jose or anyone has experimented with a wet shot like were talking cause ive definitely never heard of it.
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Old Oct 17, 2006 | 03:06 PM
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From what i've been told it's detrimental to the impeller blades to have liquid hitting them while at speed. It supposedly erodes them over time.
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