turbo or heads and cam?
go turbo... it gives you more options for growth later. there is only so much a head and cam car can make. start with the basic turbo STS kit 5psi makes about 420 rwhp then build your car up and later turn up the boost . everyone talks about the money and it is a factor, but the bottom line is it sounds like your going to spend the money one way or the other. might as well go with the kit that allows you growth later on when you get the rest of the car up to the power level your looking for 
Originally Posted by Frost
Don't forget: wideband, fuel pres. guage, fuel system mods (!), suspension mods, clutch (or tranny, ouch if A4), ....and sooner or later a 12 bolt or 9" rear.
Yeap.... Although I think Billy's kit comes with AFR gauge and Boost gauge in Dual pillar setup... (Not as good as wideband but ok if he stays with 5-8psi)
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From: Norman, OK
ok i just got my car back from Xtreme in OKC. i got hooker long tube headers and a comp cam. 403RWH after the tune no bolt ons at all yet im happy with this and it sounds awesome. thanks for all your help guys.
Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
if u havent turboed a car, then u dont know what FI does to u, im at 12grand with stock block and stock rearend, let me break it down for u for a quick estimate for a good build and y it can cost 24grand, 3500 motor, 5000turbo, 2500 rear end, 1700 heads, 350 springs, 100 pushrods, 1000 in suspendsions parts, 3000 easy in labor for this stuff, thast already 17grand, and that dosent in include: 500 tuning, 350 wideband, 500gauges, 50 for pillar, good tires, 1300 clutch and the list goes on and on, AND FI BREAKS ALOT OF ****
Originally Posted by 2002/Black/SS
if u havent turboed a car, then u dont know what FI does to u, im at 12grand with stock block and stock rearend, let me break it down for u for a quick estimate for a good build and y it can cost 24grand, 3500 motor, 5000turbo, 2500 rear end, 1700 heads, 350 springs, 100 pushrods, 1000 in suspendsions parts, 3000 easy in labor for this stuff, thast already 17grand, and that dosent in include: 500 tuning, 350 wideband, 500gauges, 50 for pillar, good tires, 1300 clutch and the list goes on and on, AND FI BREAKS ALOT OF ****
Turbo- GT45 new -----$750.
Tial BOV---------------$200.
Tial 44mm wastegate----$350.
Inovative WB------------$350.
Intercooler---------------$300.
60# injectors-------------$400.
HP tuners + 2 bar---------$600.ish (more than someone to tune it)
V-band clamps------------$150.ish
Headers and all hot material
and flanges------------------$200.
cold side material, elbows, air filter--$200.
Fuel pump & lines & reg.----------$500.ish
Edelbrock intake and fuel rails-----$400.
Cam (used)-----------------------$200.
pushrods--------------------------$100.
Valve springs----------------------$200.
PCM-------------------------------$100.
6.0L heads (minus $100 for sale of 5.3 heads)---$200.
Ok thats $5200. I have into mine.
So add maybe $2000. Just cause someone put it in a kit for for you (fabbing parts). and $3000 for labor of someone installing it all for you.
Total comes in around $10,200.
$24k is a little high for a turbo setup. even with upgrades to the car.
Maybe if you baught a $12k engine. but then again whats in an engine that could possibly cost that much?
