408 paired to a TC-76?
10-20-2006, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by obZidian
please re-read the rest of my post. I mentioned that his current turbo selection shouldn't guide his build. Thus, my incinuation was that he, with the 408ci i had adviced, move on to a turbo that will fit the 408ci and not be linear and be stuck with his current turbo.
I understand that the 76 will not be a good match for a 408, that is why i also mentioned the t88 t6/t4....
know what i mean?
Also, since you mentioned that he might never take it to the track, well, maybe he wouldn't have such a need to go out of his way and get a barrel of race fuel or properly mix his tank. Im thinking the 408 will yield a solid power growth on pump gas, therefore not having o turn up the boost where more parts are closer to their respective failure level.
Not trying to bash dude, just speaking for another perspective.
I understand that the 76 will not be a good match for a 408, that is why i also mentioned the t88 t6/t4....
know what i mean?
Also, since you mentioned that he might never take it to the track, well, maybe he wouldn't have such a need to go out of his way and get a barrel of race fuel or properly mix his tank. Im thinking the 408 will yield a solid power growth on pump gas, therefore not having o turn up the boost where more parts are closer to their respective failure level.
Not trying to bash dude, just speaking for another perspective.
That kit is a t4 though, not a t6 which that 40X" mill needs.
****, why stop at having him get a new turbo, remake the whole kit too.... Who cares if it might not fit.
..."not bashing or anything" but you sound like someone with infinitely deep pockets or someone who has never actually taken this plunge. There is alot of bench racing here...
10-21-2006, 01:44 AM
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So get a T4 flanged turbo. It seems to be working pretty well for PurEvl. It's not that hard to figure out. No, I haven't ever invested money into a turbo kit, but this seems obvious.
408 vs 347 for the same cost? = 408 obviously
76mm turbo and 347 vs 88mm turbo and 408 for the cost of new 88mm turbo - old 76mm turbo = what, $600-800 at the most. = way greater power potential and easier to make power on pump gas. = de de dee? What are you going to choose?
408 vs 347 for the same cost? = 408 obviously
76mm turbo and 347 vs 88mm turbo and 408 for the cost of new 88mm turbo - old 76mm turbo = what, $600-800 at the most. = way greater power potential and easier to make power on pump gas. = de de dee? What are you going to choose?
10-21-2006, 04:43 AM
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Originally Posted by Beaflag VonRathburg
So get a T4 flanged turbo. It seems to be working pretty well for PurEvl. It's not that hard to figure out. No, I haven't ever invested money into a turbo kit, but this seems obvious.
408 vs 347 for the same cost? = 408 obviously
76mm turbo and 347 vs 88mm turbo and 408 for the cost of new 88mm turbo - old 76mm turbo = what, $600-800 at the most. = way greater power potential and easier to make power on pump gas. = de de dee? What are you going to choose?
408 vs 347 for the same cost? = 408 obviously
76mm turbo and 347 vs 88mm turbo and 408 for the cost of new 88mm turbo - old 76mm turbo = what, $600-800 at the most. = way greater power potential and easier to make power on pump gas. = de de dee? What are you going to choose?
I do have to agree with this man...
10-21-2006, 12:06 PM
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If you don't want a bigger turbo like an 88 or a 91mm then get an iron 370 with quality rods and pistons but you can use the stock crank. If upgrading to a bigger turbo isn't out of the question then do the 408. Go twins if you can!
10-21-2006, 12:53 PM
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I am not going twins I already have a Hi-Flo single kit. Most likely I will be going 368 with an ls2 block and reusing my factory crank and I am getting my TC-76MPS anyday now its in the mail from JZ @ forced inductions. Thanks for everyones input!!!
10-23-2006, 04:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Frost
That kit is a t4 though, not a t6 which that 40X" mill needs.
****, why stop at having him get a new turbo, remake the whole kit too.... Who cares if it might not fit.
..."not bashing or anything" but you sound like someone with infinitely deep pockets or someone who has never actually taken this plunge. There is alot of bench racing here...
****, why stop at having him get a new turbo, remake the whole kit too.... Who cares if it might not fit.
..."not bashing or anything" but you sound like someone with infinitely deep pockets or someone who has never actually taken this plunge. There is alot of bench racing here...
you have your point of view and obviously are set in your ways. I am only trying to give some alternatives. no deep pockets, just dedicated and hard working.
and if you need to know, im well deep into my build so bench race all you want, and argue all you want.... plan and simple.. you wont find what your looking for with me.
A t88 T4 408ci will make a great street package and still not have to redo his whole kit. That, in essense, is what i have been saying all along. A T76 is not for a 408ci shortblock. Again, if he wants to have that specific turbo becuz that is what the owner wants, then don't do the 408ci. Go for a 370ci. Or the same priced 347 if that is what HE wants.
Again, please read my words correctly and objectively.
10-23-2006, 06:24 PM
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Originally Posted by obZidian
....A T76 is not for a 408ci shortblock. Again, if he wants to have that specific turbo becuz that is what the owner wants, then don't do the 408ci. Go for a 370ci. Or the same priced 347 if that is what HE wants.
Again, please read my words correctly and objectively.
Again, please read my words correctly and objectively.
Kyle choked a LARGE FRAME 76 with his 370... ...and this isn't about what the poster wants, I am talking about the turbo HE HAS.
10-25-2006, 12:31 AM
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Originally Posted by 52172
its not really its just that one of the shops quoted me a price with a 408 short block and it was the same as another shop rebuilding my factory short block. What did you pay from LME?
10-25-2006, 04:48 PM
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Originally Posted by 52172
probibly strictly performance in van nuys ca. shootin for 650 rwhp on 91 octane.
