Dr. Jeckel

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TRT stage 3 kit:
STAGE-3
LS1 STS Turbo kit
60LB Mototron Injectors
Autometer
Boost gauge
AEM Wide band
Dual a-pillar pod
TRT Custom front mount
intercooler (FMIC)
255lph Walbro
Patriot dual gold springs
with titanium retainers
100' DEI exhaust wrap
GT-67 Turbo upgrade
Fuel pump hot wire kit
T-bolt clamp upgrade
$5,995.00
+$210 for BOV = $6,305

EEP D-1SC "tuner kit":
A complete F Bdy D-1SC kit exclusively from EPP
We take all the items found in the standard $5,731.30 ATI ProCharger 1GJ204-SCI D-1SC model, and add 60lb Siemens fuel injectors, a Walbro 340 HP in tank fuel pump, an ATI Performance Products harmonic balancer, and an ATI Performance Products pinning kit! You can even send us your cars computer, and we will install a tune in it for you, all for the one low $6,120.00 price!
+$350 for frount mount=$6,470

Question:
Which kit will make the most power at 8lbs of boost with my current setup in sig.?

The TRT provides gauges and wideband vs. no gauges w/ procharger, but the procharger is a very well put together system. Kinda on the fence aince I believe a supercharger provides less headache as far as keeping it tuned properly vs. a turbo. I haven't had experience with superchargers but have had a T-type that I did a whole lot to and had headaches with(i know its a different car)

I am looking for subjective opinions and mainly real world experience and numbers here, not personal comments like" i hate rear mounts" please.

Thanks, James.

trtturbo

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This month, I will throw in a free Meth kit too.
As far as power, the t67 can make more than your stock lower end can handle. We have made 650rwhp with the 67 before.
With a m6 and stage III, you will be around 500rwhp at 8psi.

LSs1Power

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The D-1SC at 8psi should be between 500-550rwhp and 450-500rwtq on a dynojet. The advantage the T67 will have is TQ in the range of 4500-5500 RPM and most likely peak TQ. Another advantage for a turbo is that you can change the boost levels with a boost controller. On the other hand, the D-1SC powerband will be wider (example, in my car i get over 450rwtq from 3500 RPM to 6500 RPM while peak TQ is 500rwtq) since it doesn't fall off fast like a turbo with increasing backpressure and higher RPM. Another thing about the D-1SC is that you can run it to make 450rwhp and then later on push it to make 750rwhp with just a change of a pulley. You don't need to change the turbo or affect the lag by doing soo (Larger turbo More lag and weaker low end power).

So its really up to u.... For me i would run a STS or TRT 60-1 turbo in a heavy daily driver car (Yukon or GTO) where i need all that crazy TQ in the low end and midrange (60-1 does have a crazy TQ curve over 67 in the low end and midrange), but if i had a lighter car such as vette or Camaro i would go with the D-1SC. At the end is really what your needs are.... I must admit that I love the sound of turbo to SC though.... Im getting the Lumina (Aka Holden in AUS) soon and i will be slapping a T67 on it and keep it a daily driver with a switch to get 4psi and 8psi.

navymitch12

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if billy is gonna throw in a free meth kit i say go for trt deffo....i bought my kit from him back when it didnt come with some of that cool stuff and i am still 100% happy with the service, shipping, and just overall help that i have gotten from TRT! o yea and how fun my car is to drive now

SSilverSSurfer

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hell yeah billy throwing in the meth, do the TRT,

Dr. Jeckel

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Billy, do ya'll sell the additional options, such as the electronic boost controllers? I couldn't find it on your site and I assume it doesn't come standard in the kit.
Can you delete any options of of the stages, say the double springs and exhaust wrap? I already have LS6 springs on the car.
Anything else you would recommend with the kit for a complete bolt-in setup?
The supercharger setup is a little more appealing in the sense that I believe it to be easier to manage on a day after day basis, of course this is just from my past experience with turbos.
Thanks for the comments and advice.
The only other thing is that being in texas sales tax is gonna be about another $400, right?

trtturbo

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I can delete parts if you would like. The LS6 springs are only a little better than stock where the doubles are good for almost anything you throw at it.
As far the wrap, there is a big difference in how it will spool with the wrap. Either way, just let me know what you need.
Either way is good IMO. With the turbo, the car will drive just like it does now until you get in it, then you get the boost.
If you have an A4, a higher stall is a great thing to do also.
You can do a boost controller, but we normally dont. IMO, is kindof a gimmick. We just put the spring in for the boost you want to run.

Dr. Jeckel

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Thank you very much for your time and help, great info for me to think about.
Don't I need the FMU to increase fuel pressure as boost increases?
If anyone has anything to add, please do.

cracker

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Belts are ghey. Unless they have teeth.

Boost with no belts = better

EPP

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I voted (naturally...) for the ProCharger kit. If you do go with the rear turbo kit, I would not run the return oil line into the right valve cover. I'd reroute the return oil line to the oil pan, as the top end of the engine already has too much oil up there. Bob

99Z28LS1

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trt is a bad *** place, makes you wanna spend more and more money when you see the cars or trucks in there getting stuff done. my M6 is a good testament to this kit, EXCEPT that i have 42lb SVO w/o Patriot dual gold springs with titanium retainers and my car made 472/501 the first time. so i believe with springs and the FREE METH KIT, my car would've made over 500 easy

99Z28LS1

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now, i ordered their special cam, patriot springs and hardened pushrods and i shall see my car make over 500 easy. with more RPM's too

Drewstein

The last turbo car that had a chance against my D1SC was a T-88. The D1 is just so easy to make power with it's a no brainer IMO.

cablebandit

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how loud do you want the car. A s/c car is gonna be pretty loud to be the most efficient...headers...off road y-pipe and nice catback (unless you run a cutout).....you can make power without all that just not as much. Depends on what you want....what heads/cam do you have now?

Dr. Jeckel

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Stock heads, unknown small cam. The supercharger appeals to me more, but finances will dictate whether or not forced induction will be on my ride in the near future. I have had a turbo car....I think a supercharged car meet my personal preferences better.

If anyone has 6K, I am taking donations

cablebandit

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stock heads and small cam...you are gonna make more on the turbo setup FWIW.....

Dr. Jeckel

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It wouldn't be my current H/C setup by the time I got the supercharger

Drewstein

I disagree...

sonicbaloo

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I agree with Drew. We made sick numbers on a D1SC with stock heads and bottom end. We added a cam and the car made over 600 rwhp. The tuner had to keep timing low in order prolong the life of the motor.

Chad

longrange4u

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X2

More then your car could take on a stock block.. ask me how I know.