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Mar 2, 2007 | 03:22 PM

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Subscribing..As I am considering a F1-c.

Apr 10, 2011 | 01:45 AM

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I was wondering this to. I would like to see some pics too. Can you keep the AC or not?

Apr 10, 2011 | 01:58 AM

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Holy cow, this was a 4 year old thread... There are quite a few who have kept a/c with an F1C. I thin one solution was to use the truck inlet hat for more clearance. Contact Bob over at brutespeed and he can give you any advice you will need.

Apr 10, 2011 | 03:18 AM

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I am using the 102mm FAST intake and TB. And was wanting to know about the F2R. I had called Procharger and the told me I would have to give up my AC and Factory style water pump. The guy from Procharger offered to sell me a Cog LSx transplant kit. Get this he tells me that it was made for the possibility of keeping the AC. But this kit had never been put on and LS/LSX motor to see if it worked. I just about fell out of my chair when he told me that. So I spoke with some of my friends and they all seem to think that info was wrong. One of them has there own shop and has put a lot of the Procharged stuff on a lot of different cars. He said that he had never ran into that problem before.

Any way I did contact Bob. I asked him the same question. He wrote me back to ask how much boost I was going to run. Which I replied back to him with the answer plus gave him the run down on my build. Still have not heard anything back from him yet.

See I was going to go with my single T6 88mm turbo. But was going to have to pay 5g for a custom kit to keep the AC. 5g is not to bad of a price. But I was talking with a bunch of my friends and they was talking about the F1 procharger. So I came home and started to look around for a kit for my 98 Camaro. Seen the F2R and read on it. Started liking the ideal of it the more I read.

If I could find out for sure that I could keep my AC and not have to go with an elec. water pump. I would sell my turbo stuff and get the F2R. If not then I will continue on with my turbo application and pay the 5g to Josh for his custom kit. Just exploring all the possibilities before I commit 100% to whatever application I am going to do.

Apr 10, 2011 | 05:48 AM

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Here was my reply to your pm this morning.

You're not going to want to use an F-2R, that blower is a monster!

Your AFR 225 heads, are they the standard 4 bolt per cylinder heads? If they are I would run past 20 psi of boost. I was seeing 19 to 20 psi of boost in my 408 Camaro with a F-1A. A ProCharger F-1R would be what I would go with, along with the Aster bracket and the front mount intercooler assembly. You can keep the ac with this combination.

You can find this combination at this link.
http://shop.brutespeed.com/ATI-1GJ20...-Speed-Kit.htm

Let me know if you have any questions. Thanks. Bob

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Apr 10, 2011 | 05:53 AM

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A Cog LSx transplant kit will not work on a 4th gen f body, it would go right into the shock tower. Bob

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Apr 10, 2011 | 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Bob@BruteSpeed

A Cog LSx transplant kit will not work on a 4th gen f body, it would go right into the shock tower. Bob

I have heard of the transplant kit. But I wasn't referring to it. Was just wondering if one could change the pulley on the F1R to a cog setup and then change the crank pulley?

Apr 10, 2011 | 09:13 PM

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If your thinking F2 which would dictate 30lbs of boost then I would just go direct mount to the front of the crank and split the radiator.

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Apr 10, 2011 | 10:04 PM

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If your thinking F2 which would dictate 30lbs of boost then I would just go direct mount to the front of the crank and split the radiator.

That's not a bad Ideal Slowhawk! Question tho, do they make a kit to do that? How would you support the F2? How hard on the crank and bearings would that be setup like that?

Apr 11, 2011 | 07:14 AM

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The guy from Procharger offered to sell me a Cog LSx transplant kit. Get this he tells me that it was made for the possibility of keeping the AC. But this kit had never been put on and LS/LSX motor to see if it worked. I just about fell out of my chair when he told me that.

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I have heard of the transplant kit. But I wasn't referring to it. Was just wondering if one could change the pulley on the F1R to a cog setup and then change the crank pulley?

You totally lost me there, but I replied back to your pm this morning. Thanks. Bob

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Apr 11, 2011 | 08:03 AM

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The first quote from me that you had up. I was talking to nandos_z28. Well I guess I was bitching about procharger trying to sale me something that they had not even tried out to see if that transplate even worked or not.

Apr 11, 2011 | 11:40 AM

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That's not a bad Ideal Slowhawk! Question tho, do they make a kit to do that? How would you support the F2? How hard on the crank and bearings would that be setup like that?

Jakes Performance out of Lee's Summit, MO makes brackets for this.

Apr 11, 2011 | 03:55 PM

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You totally lost me there, but I replied back to your pm this morning. Thanks. Bob

This. Even after your explanation I'm still lost

And I'm also going to backup that the F2R is WAY WAY too huge for a street blower and the unit is bigger than an F1C so I wouldn't be surprised if there's more fab work than mentioned in this thread to make it work. And it'll likely hurt your ears

highest I'd probably go for a street car is an F-1C, anything higher than that (maybe an F-1R would be the exception) I would keep only for track use.

Apr 11, 2011 | 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by craig382ci

That's not a bad Ideal Slowhawk! Question tho, do they make a kit to do that? How would you support the F2? How hard on the crank and bearings would that be setup like that?

It takes alot less load from the crank because it does not pull from the side.

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