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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:38 PM
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define you "had the cam ground and found out it isnt right" and any flow numbers or info on the heads?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:49 PM
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define you "had the cam ground and found out it isnt right" and any flow numbers or info on the heads?
Well, I went to the local speed shop. Started discussing cams and the owner said he would be able to get me a custom ground cam from the same guy that grinds a lot of cames for NASCAR (he works for Comp. Cams). The owner of the speed shop said he would tell him it was for a FI engine and all. I found out it isnt the right cam for me from the last 15 posts.

Not really any info on the heads. The car was at GMR up until around the middle of May then was down for awhile while the turbo kit was being built. Havent had it all long enough yet (or enough trouble with it yet) to get to really know anything about the setup
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:52 PM
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Your injectors will support more with a boost reference fuel pressure regulator. If you are running a consistant 60 psi fuel pressure, thats with zero drop, when you're at 16psi, thats an equvalent fuel pressure of 44psi. You need more pressure to maintain the D/P accross the injectors when in boost.

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan K
Your injectors will support more with a boost reference fuel pressure regulator. If you are running a consistant 60 psi fuel pressure, thats with zero drop, when you're at 16psi, thats an equvalent fuel pressure of 44psi. You need more pressure to maintain the D/P accross the injectors when in boost.

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:54 PM
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And as far as the cam goes, it depends on your over all needs. It would be fine with a combination that you're not going to spin up to 7000 rpm.

The heads are "fine" but without being ported, they are going to be a restriction.

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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Also, do you have a log of the boost level? It seams that you may be having a boost spike at peak HP/TQ then the boost is dropping off as RPM increases?

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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 06:02 PM
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Originally Posted by Ryan K
Also, do you have a log of the boost level? It seams that you may be having a boost spike at peak HP/TQ then the boost is dropping off as RPM increases?

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I dont have a log, but watching the gauge while it was on the dyno it never left 16psi once the boost controller stopped it.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 06:39 PM
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Maybe I didnt look close enough at the posts, but what turbo kit?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 06:45 PM
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then why not get ahold of GMR and find out from them exactly what you have for the heads and such.I take it your goals are higher than what you made cause for most builds that cam would have been fine.If your heads are stock then like Ryan said your leaving alot on the table as any power you would have gained NA would be magnified by adding boost.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 07:01 PM
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Originally Posted by fletchls1
I dont have a log, but watching the gauge while it was on the dyno it never left 16psi once the boost controller stopped it.

Well if the boost is steady then you can rule the wastegate and turbo out. If there was a problem with those, boost would drop on the top end. How about valavesprings...which ones are you using?
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 07:58 PM
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per his sig it says patriot golds,the dyno sheet posted doesnt look like valve float and his cam is <.600" i would imagine
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 08:37 PM
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Needs more timing up top past the peaks if your looking for the hp #.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:08 PM
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I'm 8.0:1, and you should assume that 1psi is needed just to get you up to the equivalent of 9:1 power.

That being said, your numbers are promising except that you peaked really early. I'd look into that and look to understand if you ran out of turbo, injector, valvespring, or an into another issue.

Took Speed Inc. two separate dyno sessions to get my car to good numbers... springs and rockers needed to be changed.
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Old Feb 25, 2007 | 09:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
I'm 8.0:1, and you should assume that 1psi is needed just to get you up to the equivalent of 9:1 power.

That being said, your numbers are promising except that you peaked really early. I'd look into that and look to understand if you ran out of turbo, injector, valvespring, or an into another issue.

Took Speed Inc. two separate dyno sessions to get my car to good numbers... springs and rockers needed to be changed.
what were the springs and rockers changed to and what were they to begin with?
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