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use a cubic inch rule instead of a stock block rule.... or add more weight to the non stock block.... an iron block lsx motor will weigh more any ways...
but if your not careful about how you limit the blower/turbo sizes, your class will get "**** on" by a few guys like KP that are resourceful/educated.
but if your not careful about how you limit the blower/turbo sizes, your class will get "**** on" by a few guys like KP that are resourceful/educated.
Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Right and you are like 3150-3200 raceweight Kevin.
Originally Posted by kp
Hop on a plane and bring scales, I'll bet you 5,000 dollars this car weighs over 3350 as it sits (with me in it) and it has very little fuel in it.
i was going through EPP's website and looke at the 402 transam that had a M6 in it that put down around 750rwhp and rwtq... look at his trap speed in the 8th... kinda funny, no?
Originally Posted by ty_ty13
kevin..... no one believes that your car makes as much power as it does with just a D1SC! its kinda funny if you ask me...
i was going through EPP's website and looke at the 402 transam that had a M6 in it that put down around 750rwhp and rwtq... look at his trap speed in the 8th... kinda funny, no?
i was going through EPP's website and looke at the 402 transam that had a M6 in it that put down around 750rwhp and rwtq... look at his trap speed in the 8th... kinda funny, no?
Kevin and I have been friends for a while, it's all good, step away from the nutbag. 
Phil is trying to keep Street Dominator intresting, so I am just saying that I'd limit the Vortech blower to a T-Trim, maybe not allow the Novi 2000 either.
Phil is trying to keep Street Dominator intresting, so I am just saying that I'd limit the Vortech blower to a T-Trim, maybe not allow the Novi 2000 either.
Originally Posted by ty_ty13
kevin..... no one believes that your car makes as much power as it does with just a D1SC! its kinda funny if you ask me...
i was going through EPP's website and looke at the 402 transam that had a M6 in it that put down around 750rwhp and rwtq... look at his trap speed in the 8th... kinda funny, no?
i was going through EPP's website and looke at the 402 transam that had a M6 in it that put down around 750rwhp and rwtq... look at his trap speed in the 8th... kinda funny, no?
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NMRA renegade cars cannot come over because of the stock block rule (internals can be changed) plus there are vac pumps. Plus they use a YSI, very different blower.
it is hard to put a limit on cubes because we do not have a way to check it with our short amount of time. if we put a limit we would have to go on good faith. that can get ugly real fast.
to be quite honest, i feel a smart racer that knows their stuff can knock of a mid to low 9 in this class.
it is hard to put a limit on cubes because we do not have a way to check it with our short amount of time. if we put a limit we would have to go on good faith. that can get ugly real fast.
to be quite honest, i feel a smart racer that knows their stuff can knock of a mid to low 9 in this class.
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Originally Posted by Pro Stock John
Kevin and I have been friends for a while, it's all good, step away from the nutbag.
Phil is trying to keep Street Dominator intresting, so I am just saying that I'd limit the Vortech blower to a T-Trim, maybe not allow the Novi 2000 either.
Phil is trying to keep Street Dominator intresting, so I am just saying that I'd limit the Vortech blower to a T-Trim, maybe not allow the Novi 2000 either.
If you dont allow a novi2000 or YSi then you better not let a D1 in either. I ran 150mph with a D1 in 55 degree +100 DA weather, DEZ ran that in 80 degree weather with a D1 and A2W at over 3400lbs. A D1SC is a pretty potent blower, that EPP car made 750 on a MUSTANG dyno and trapped 105 - but its a full optioned heavy, manual transmission show car so there is no comparison. I eould kill for 750rwhp on a mustang dyno, I cant even muster that on a dynojet on a good day.
I suppose if I'm BSing about the weight I'm BSing about the 60 foot too because I dont put the car in the bumper lol.
If its a local series keep it local and keep it realistic, otherwise people just dont show up. If you have a car that dominates then look at the rules, with no CID limits thats an easy 8 second class on 10.5x28 ET drags. Most of those rules are from last years NMCA street race class except they are limited to an 11.5x28 ET street which is a smaller and way harder to hook on a mediocre track then a 10.x28 ET drag and they are low 9s 150mph on that little tire at 3450lbs at 360 cid max.
There is going to be loopholes no matter what, you have to keep the payouts small enough to keep the out of state heavy hitters away and keep them high enough to get a good turnout. Its not easy, ask any series promoter
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How many people on here are going to try and make it out? I know a few will be there. They have been talking it up on IMSM's boards. Just curious if anyone else is interested?
would meth be considered a power adder? i dont think it should be limited to one power adder because theres alot of debate as to whether an intercooler is a power adder, just my $.02
Originally Posted by SSilverSSurfer
would meth be considered a power adder? i dont think it should be limited to one power adder because theres alot of debate as to whether an intercooler is a power adder, just my $.02
I'd like to go but not sure if the car will be done. I'm putting in as much time as I can but this is my first FI set-up so I'm planing on hitting some delays. My car should be low tens once it's done and I'm still using the stock short block. It weighs in at 3400lbs plus the additional weight of the blower set up. I should meet all the rules, will still be driving it on the street 
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Originally Posted by ty_ty13
this is something i may be up against in a local street series.... a FMIC being considered a power adder.... which i think is gay.... a set of headers could be considered power adders
Originally Posted by SSilverSSurfer
so with additional "so called" power adders, are you required to add more weight to the car? whatever happened to run whatcha brung?
Well I have to much turbo (88), 90mm TB, and my inlet pipe might be 4.0, so I would not be allowed to run.
I'm saying cap it at T-Trim, 76mm, and D1 and then nobody should bitch.
When you say stock block, you mean from a Stang perspective no 'R' blocks? Most serious Stang guys split the stock blocks at like 600rwhp right? So no GM LSx iron block when it comes out? I think you language sounds a bit vague.
I'm saying cap it at T-Trim, 76mm, and D1 and then nobody should bitch.
When you say stock block, you mean from a Stang perspective no 'R' blocks? Most serious Stang guys split the stock blocks at like 600rwhp right? So no GM LSx iron block when it comes out? I think you language sounds a bit vague.
Originally Posted by kp
Thats OK, local track here (rogersville, tn) has a 'street car' series and you can run a roots type blower, turbo or nitrous but no centrifugal superchargers - made a lot of sense to me..
theyre both belt driven? what a bunch of tards, and i bet the cars they call "street cars" are the ones with the weiand blowers coming outta the hood but they cant allow centifugal's
Originally Posted by SSilverSSurfer
theyre both belt driven? what a bunch of tards, and i bet the cars they call "street cars" are the ones with the weiand blowers coming outta the hood but they cant allow centifugal's