ProCharger guys...blow-off valve pics and specs please...
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Just remember that a bypass valve is open under non-boost conditions, and air will go in at certain times. That's why a street car needs to have a filter on the bypass if it doesn't dump back into the closed system. And a race car should probably run a screen. Otherwise you're pulling unfiltered air into your $30,000 setup...
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Anyone know what the part number is for the little filter?
Air filter RU-0160 "surge system filter"
1.5" inlet, 4.00" long, 3.00" dia
MSRP is $41.00.
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Just remember that a bypass valve is open under non-boost conditions, and air will go in at certain times. That's why a street car needs to have a filter on the bypass if it doesn't dump back into the closed system. And a race car should probably run a screen. Otherwise you're pulling unfiltered air into your $30,000 setup...
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Just remember that a bypass valve is open under non-boost conditions, and air will go in at certain times. That's why a street car needs to have a filter on the bypass if it doesn't dump back into the closed system. And a race car should probably run a screen. Otherwise you're pulling unfiltered air into your $30,000 setup...
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I used to filter to quiet it down, plus you have to be careful what filter you use, if its too restrictive it kind of defeats the purpose of the bypass
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kp, having said that about the filter...
I wonder if the little Summit filter (pic in first post) that I have on there led to the problems with the valve?
I've had it on for prolly 8 months...but was no where near the boost level I am now when I installed it...
I wonder if the little Summit filter (pic in first post) that I have on there led to the problems with the valve?
I've had it on for prolly 8 months...but was no where near the boost level I am now when I installed it...
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There is really no way it will ever draw anything into the bypass when its running...
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
You could be at an idle or light cruise and punch it fast enough to gulp some air through the bypass before it can react. It may not be often, but why take a chance? A small filter is a cheap insurance policy compared to all the money we have in our setups... And what if your blower belt breaks - do you want to be sucking up shreds of whatever is flying around? $20-40 depending on your setup...
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Not everyone has a race setup with a blower moving a ton of air. I'm just saying it's cheap insurance. Imagine if you were wrong and a small stone got in there. Anytime your MAP is reading less than ambient air pressure there is a chance that you could flow into the bypass at certain times. Haven't you ever seen a datalog where you can see the TPS punch to WOT and you get a quick dip in the MAP reading?
Whatever works for your setup. It's just not something I would do. If I didn't have at least a screen on it, I might do some dipshit thing like drop a screw in there or something...
Jim
Whatever works for your setup. It's just not something I would do. If I didn't have at least a screen on it, I might do some dipshit thing like drop a screw in there or something...
Jim
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I liked how mine looks so I mounted it in the engine bay. It looks like it can flow a good amount of air too. It's the vortech race by-pass, it's just a little smaller than the mondo.
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Originally Posted by Superado
another question...how important is placement of these? I have been told that it is optimum to have it as close to the TB as possible...say...in my inlet-to-TB...(pic attached)...I am referring to the "race-ready" type by-pass...
Since it is VTA...it has no reason to be so close to the filtered inlet...or does it?
Since it is VTA...it has no reason to be so close to the filtered inlet...or does it?
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I think you can put it anywhere between the outlet of the supercharger and the inlet of the throttle body. I don't see how it could make much dif where, it's just venting the extra air the engine doesn't need when it's not wot. As soon as you start to make boost it closes. I'm no expert but that's how I understand it.
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Originally Posted by DeltaT
Not everyone has a race setup with a blower moving a ton of air. I'm just saying it's cheap insurance. Imagine if you were wrong and a small stone got in there. Anytime your MAP is reading less than ambient air pressure there is a chance that you could flow into the bypass at certain times. Haven't you ever seen a datalog where you can see the TPS punch to WOT and you get a quick dip in the MAP reading?
Whatever works for your setup. It's just not something I would do. If I didn't have at least a screen on it, I might do some dipshit thing like drop a screw in there or something...
Jim
Whatever works for your setup. It's just not something I would do. If I didn't have at least a screen on it, I might do some dipshit thing like drop a screw in there or something...
Jim
I understand, but a D1SC with a 7.25/3.4 setup is hardly a race setup Even if the MAP dips the the blower will still be moving a ton of air and blowing out the bypass, plus the spring is strong enough where if the it did drop for 1/10 of a second it would slam shut. Only time I could see sucking something in would be if the blower belt broke, then the bypass would be wide open at idle/decell.
I'm not telling people NOT to use a filter or screen, if you want to its not a big deal really, especially if its exposed and something could get in it (especially water, water is bad). Just dont use one thats too small since restricting the flow kind of defeats the purpose of it
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I have the well proven Vortech Mondo Valve in stock
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=644
and the steel flange
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=646
I could get it out to you tomorrow. Bob
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=644
and the steel flange
http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com....html?item=646
I could get it out to you tomorrow. Bob
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Bob, I believe that you were correct in saying that the ProFlow is sufficient for my application. I spoke with ProCharger and was made aware that the style I have was changed to the ProFlow for appearance reasons mainly and maybe a little cleaner install...but that the reaction time of the one I have is actually a little better however. andereck got me the part # for the OE application of the vacuum control used on the one I have and I ordered one last night...it arrived this morning. He said that the diaphragm was replaceable, but for $9 my price...I may just replace the valve...it is just screwed onto the butterfly assembly. First I'm going to take the whole assembly off and clean and lube it really well and see if that solves the occassional sticking. If it continues, I will just change out the VCV. I probably should replace the little Summit filter I have on it with the K&N like you use or similar.
Thanks everyone for your input!
Thanks everyone for your input!
Last edited by Superado; 04-26-2007 at 01:38 PM.