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Old 04-23-2007, 10:05 PM
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How much boost can you run on Patroit head befor you should have trouble with heads lifiting? I am currently running 10 to 12psi. I have setup in sig and am currently having trouble with pushing water and leaking around heads. I have ARP 12 point headstuds tq to spec. Will the Patroit heads just not hold because not as thick of deck hickness or what do you all think? I am using the factory MLS 6.0 gasket.
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Shouldn't at your power level, what kind of fuel and ignition advance. Detonation will lead to the heads lifting.
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We run the Patriot heads at 16 psi of boost. This C5 is being run hard on a road course with Patriot Stage 2 heads at 740 rwhp. http://www.exoticperformanceplus.com...Car.php?car=40 Bob
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I have not dynoed the new setup with the Pt 88 according to the wideband everything looks good. Should I just retourqe the head studs? Maybe adding about 5 foot pounds?
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I ran 18psi with 6.0 heads + A1 head studs when my car was running 9.4/143-144mph.
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anyone else?
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i lifted mine this weekend on 20+psi with 97 octane...BAD combo of octane vs boost....if you are lifting the heads at under 900rwhp, you got something else going on like too much timing....boost vs octane etc
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anyone else think that the torque/HG might have somthing to do with it?

i have heard that it is best to go around torquing in increments of 5lbs, torque, then retorque at final ft/lbs.
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i do usually like 30-60 and then whatever final torque is. If i remember right TwnTrboCE was making 700rwhp on stock headbolts
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i have a 370 with ARP studs and on 13lbs last weekend it didnt push a drop of water. And thats on STOCK ls1 heads
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I run mine all the time between 14-16 on pump gas and 20 on race gas....

I pushed a Lil bit of water on my last pass at the track... after 4 passes.... it was just a lil bit....
Nothing im worried about because ive been told by the people who done this before me that its going to happen sooner or later and i need to keep checking it and add water as needed........
If/When i blow a head gasket i plan on O-Ringing the heads....

Ill be pushing more then 20 psi next tiem out for sure......

My heads were Patriots to begin with but i had to have them gone thru... so there no longer Patriots....

Kyle
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
I run mine all the time between 14-16 on pump gas and 20 on race gas....

I pushed a Lil bit of water on my last pass at the track... after 4 passes.... it was just a lil bit....
Nothing im worried about because ive been told by the people who done this before me that its going to happen sooner or later and i need to keep checking it and add water as needed........
If/When i blow a head gasket i plan on O-Ringing the heads....

Ill be pushing more then 20 psi next tiem out for sure......

My heads were Patriots to begin with but i had to have them gone thru... so there no longer Patriots....

Kyle
what does it cost to have the heads o-ringed?
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are you TTY'in? lol
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Originally Posted by THE_SUPRA
what does it cost to have the heads o-ringed?
A local buddy is doing it for me.... (when) it happens......
Im sure it will be cheap for me.....
I think the price is around $300 normally...??? Not sure.....
Ill prob have my heads gone thru when it happens also....

Kyle
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i'm lookin 2 buy a set of heads for my FI set up wich head would be the best to buy
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Originally Posted by NA$TY-TA
A local buddy is doing it for me.... (when) it happens......
Im sure it will be cheap for me.....
I think the price is around $300 normally...??? Not sure.....
Ill prob have my heads gone thru when it happens also....

Kyle

sounds like its worth it for sure.



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