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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:11 PM
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Has anyone ever had their freshly oringed block leak water into one cylinder (a lot) before the first start up?

Can someone change my title to " Blown head gasket director" ? I can get them to leak before inital start up!
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Copper head gaskets?
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Copper head gaskets?

Yes..
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 03:51 PM
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Has anyone ever had their freshly oringed block leak water into one cylinder (a lot) before the first start up?
Yeah, a friend of mine named Andy called me yesterday and said he had the same problem.
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Yeah, a friend of mine named Andy called me yesterday and said he had the same problem.

Funny!

I'm trying to find out if anyone else had the same thing happen and the retorque program work for them. I'm trying to get encouraged about this. I'm about to go and do it.
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I take it you sprayed them up with some kind of sealer? Welcome to the wonderful world of copper head gaskets/o-rings..

Take them off, check everything out, if it looks OK sparay them up and try again - order a couple of these (first item on the page) in case it doesnt work the second time

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=22005
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I take it you sprayed them up with some kind of sealer? Welcome to the wonderful world of copper head gaskets/o-rings..

Take them off, check everything out, if it looks OK sparay them up and try again - order a couple of these (first item on the page) in case it doesnt work the second time

http://www.moroso.com/catalog/catego...?catcode=22005

I'm not worried as much about the water leaking in the cylinder at 0 psi. I'm more worried about the 1700 psi of cylinder pressure trying tp get out of the cylinder. If water can leak in NOT under pressure, how can it seal up under pressure? I'm not convinced the sealer is going to cut it.
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Old Apr 25, 2007 | 04:21 PM
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Id imagine after it warms up teh block and head will exapnd a lil and help clamp it down even more? My buddy went crazy with copper gaskets on his turbo 2.3 ford. Seems to be the nature of teh beast. Hell to get it just right, but once you do itll contain a nuclear bomb damn near.
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Water can find its way into places.. I have had a dozen or so engines with copper gaskets o/rings so I know the drill. Its possible something may be wrong as well, crack between the receiver groove and water jacket or something else. Thats why I would take it apart and inspect that cylinder very closely and try again. One you warm it up and retorque it should seal a little better.
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Water can find its way into places.. I have had a dozen or so engines with copper gaskets o/rings so I know the drill. Its possible something may be wrong as well, crack between the receiver groove and water jacket or something else. Thats why I would take it apart and inspect that cylinder very closely and try again. One you warm it up and retorque it should seal a little better.

I'm going to pull the head, I didn't put it together. I'm not going to feel good about it unless I pull it off and at least take a look. I don't know why the other 7 are sealing fine, that's what makes me wonder about this one. It just doesn't seem right.
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I would look too just to be sure..
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KP, also we aren't talking about a few drops of water. The cylinder is FILLED!
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Kp if you have a minute give me a call. 630-782-6000 Andy
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I'll give you a call, I would assume there is a lot of water if you noticed it
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KP, also we aren't talking about a few drops of water. The cylinder is FILLED!
That is definately not right. I had copper gaskets with orings on a 406 that nevers leaked at all. I sprayed the gaskets down with the copper coat before install. Installing them dry will cause seppage, but not filling cylinders. I bet there is a crack or something of that nature. Josh
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That is definately not right. I had copper gaskets with orings on a 406 that nevers leaked at all. I sprayed the gaskets down with the copper coat before install. Installing them dry will cause seppage, but not filling cylinders. I bet there is a crack or something of that nature. Josh
Yea, I didnt think he was talking about that much water at first. Have to take it apart and see..
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I must have been lucky because I never had problems with head gaskets just rods flying out of the block.
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I must have been lucky because I never had problems with head gaskets just rods flying out of the block.
heh, it goes out one way or the other at a certain point
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Yeah, a friend of mine named Andy called me yesterday and said he had the same problem.
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Steam engines are old school.Take the head off and i would have to say the ring is missing.The guy who did the block probley went to lunch or had to go rub one off and forgot the last cylinder.
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