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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:48 AM
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How many of you guys use Wheelie bars.... have you ever stood your car up on its bumper? With my rearmount setup.... putting a wheelie bar back there is a bit more challanging... what do you guys think?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 08:55 AM
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I run those bad boys. Put my SS on the bumper with my old set-up. I'm not about to risk it with this set up. I have no wish to temp fate

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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:52 AM
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seems like there would be other things to invest in still?

i dont have wheelie bars, my front tires have never left the ground...maybe one day
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 09:59 AM
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Its easy enough to keep the front end down, I can put mine on the bumper if I wanted to but I sure dont want to..
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Ok... Dave how is that? I picked up both my tires once on an 11 sec flat run... I always lifted one on any of my low 11 runs...

KP... how? Just suspension tunning or what?
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:36 AM
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Its just suspension tuning and engine tuning, cars will 60' better going forward instead of going up. Not as cool for pictures but a lot safer and your front suspension/oil pan/headers will thank you for it..
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Oh yea... I am scared to do it... as I dont want to squat it on the turbo... or bumper... let alone what it will do when I come back down. What do you think effects that most in your suspension? TQ arm? Trailing arms? Panhard? I have heard that airbags in the rear springs helps twist and squat.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 11:57 AM
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get the car on the track, sounds like you will be surprised when it doesnt do a monster wheelie. worry about it when the tires start to carry as opposed to just popping them up a couple inches
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Most 9 second cars dont run airbags, a good rear sway bar makes the car leave level. I could tell all about how to hit the tires hard so it hooks and not put the car on the bumper but its a big secret

But in reality everyting on my car is just simple bolt on parts, spent a little time on the scales, I use a long torque arm, make sure your driveline angle is correct, make sure the rear is square in the car, LCAs are are the right angle etc.

I also use timers to control the timing on the first 30-50' or so and adjusting the 2 step up and down makes a big difference as well. Fine line between keeping the front end down and slowing it down. I wouldnt worry about it until the time comes unless you plan on hitting it with everything it has the first time out.
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When I had my torquey blower setup, I did hit a 1.35 and the car probably did lift 'em a foot or more...

I plan to install these travel limiters I have lying around.
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Oh yea... I am scared to do it... as I dont want to squat it on the turbo... or bumper... let alone what it will do when I come back down. What do you think effects that most in your suspension? TQ arm? Trailing arms? Panhard? I have heard that airbags in the rear springs helps twist and squat.
A stiff swaybar from BMR is the way to go. It has relocation brackets for the ends also.
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Old Jun 2, 2007 | 05:57 PM
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You guys are talking about the rear sway bar right? You still run with no front to allow for weight transfer?
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Even running 10's with nitrous, I had all the suspension you can think of - I mean everything. The run I stood it up, it was like the SS had a mind of her own. With the old set-up the only thing that I was missing was the wheelie bars and limiters. Now, the SS has both. I may never need the wheelie bars (with the limiters) but I'm still not going to take that chance.

Oh I agree that suspension tune (in conjunction with appropriate power) is 100% the reason for a great 60'. Also, the 60' can dictate the entire run. Once we get the SS back to the track we are hoping for low/mid 1.2 60'. With the improvements we should be able to finally leave on a good amount of boost.

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Wheelie bars are cheap insurance anyway, Chassisengineering has em for 700ish spring loaded?

When I get my suspension in I'll have them on, dont want to pull a harlan
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Yea I am leaning towards getting them too... but with a large rearmount turbo... it is not as easy as you would think...
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Wheelie bars are not a bad idea to have to tune in the suspension.I have them on my car to just tune in the suspension,then when it's the way we want it they will come off.
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Old Jun 3, 2007 | 07:19 AM
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What do you guys think is the key in tuning the suspension to get the best 60' and not pick the nose up to the sky?
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