My motor is seized. Shit.
looks nasty...looks alil deeper than a fingernail scratch to me 
sucks to see that i really hope my new shortblock lasts forever 
crossing fingers. Let TSP know whats up, im prety sure they will help you out, well they should anyways thats messed up
sucks to see that i really hope my new shortblock lasts forever crossing fingers. Let TSP know whats up, im prety sure they will help you out, well they should anyways thats messed up 
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Update:
Talked to Texas Speed. SOUNDS like they are going to give me the parts I need for the re-build at cost: bearing, rings, gaskets.......
That will be cool with me if it really happens. As long as they are not making profit of THEIR mistake on the line hone....then I am cool with that.
Talked to Texas Speed. SOUNDS like they are going to give me the parts I need for the re-build at cost: bearing, rings, gaskets.......
That will be cool with me if it really happens. As long as they are not making profit of THEIR mistake on the line hone....then I am cool with that.
Update:
Talked to Texas Speed. SOUNDS like they are going to give me the parts I need for the re-build at cost: bearing, rings, gaskets.......
That will be cool with me if it really happens. As long as they are not making profit of THEIR mistake on the line hone....then I am cool with that.
Talked to Texas Speed. SOUNDS like they are going to give me the parts I need for the re-build at cost: bearing, rings, gaskets.......
That will be cool with me if it really happens. As long as they are not making profit of THEIR mistake on the line hone....then I am cool with that.
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I'm not 100% sure. My buddy who is helping me just got them mains out a couple days ago. I think the crank and rods are still in. He thinks that my block may be toast because of how bad they spun. It was DEFINITELY the line hone that cause it.....or the wrong main caps were installed or something, because the front main spun the worst....which is priority oiled....and it sorta skipped which ones spun. Sucks that I have to pay outta my pocket for the line hone being off. That is a manufacture defect if I have ever heard of one 
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Something was not right with the assembly and/or machine work. Again, I am no expert mechanic, so you are getting my regurgitation of the facts from several EXPERT engine builders who are helping me. I will direct my friend who tore it down for me to this thread so he can interject his more precise diagnosis.
Well im the one who pulled the motor down.
As of now what i found was 2 stuck bearings that did end up spinning.
The oil pump looked fine and the engine showed no signs of detonation(tell tail is the top rod bearing beat out of it)The rod bearings were cherry along with the fire ring area of the head gasket.To me witht he way it picked what bearings would spin and what wouldnt.It looks to me as the line hone was off or they miss matched caps from another 6.0.It stuck and spun number 1 and number 2 number three the thrust was good number 4 had signs of a problem and number 5 looked okay.Also the rod bearings looked good for what happened to the rest of the bearings.The pistons and bore looked good.I need to get the block down to the machine shop to see if it can be saved otherwise he might be looking for a block aswell.Sean i will get with you tonite.
As of now what i found was 2 stuck bearings that did end up spinning.
The oil pump looked fine and the engine showed no signs of detonation(tell tail is the top rod bearing beat out of it)The rod bearings were cherry along with the fire ring area of the head gasket.To me witht he way it picked what bearings would spin and what wouldnt.It looks to me as the line hone was off or they miss matched caps from another 6.0.It stuck and spun number 1 and number 2 number three the thrust was good number 4 had signs of a problem and number 5 looked okay.Also the rod bearings looked good for what happened to the rest of the bearings.The pistons and bore looked good.I need to get the block down to the machine shop to see if it can be saved otherwise he might be looking for a block aswell.Sean i will get with you tonite.
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Well im the one who pulled the motor down.
As of now what i found was 2 stuck bearings that did end up spinning.
The oil pump looked fine and the engine showed no signs of detonation(tell tail is the top rod bearing beat out of it)The rod bearings were cherry along with the fire ring area of the head gasket.To me witht he way it picked what bearings would spin and what wouldnt.It looks to me as the line hone was off or they miss matched caps from another 6.0.It stuck and spun number 1 and number 2 number three the thrust was good number 4 had signs of a problem and number 5 looked okay.Also the rod bearings looked good for what happened to the rest of the bearings.The pistons and bore looked good.I need to get the block down to the machine shop to see if it can be saved otherwise he might be looking for a block aswell.Sean i will get with you tonite.
As of now what i found was 2 stuck bearings that did end up spinning.
The oil pump looked fine and the engine showed no signs of detonation(tell tail is the top rod bearing beat out of it)The rod bearings were cherry along with the fire ring area of the head gasket.To me witht he way it picked what bearings would spin and what wouldnt.It looks to me as the line hone was off or they miss matched caps from another 6.0.It stuck and spun number 1 and number 2 number three the thrust was good number 4 had signs of a problem and number 5 looked okay.Also the rod bearings looked good for what happened to the rest of the bearings.The pistons and bore looked good.I need to get the block down to the machine shop to see if it can be saved otherwise he might be looking for a block aswell.Sean i will get with you tonite.
Couple 'opinions'. First, dude nintres, that sucks ***! I really hope TSP steps up and does more than just cost. Regardless, hope it gets lined out. Second, I'm not sure about the failure analysis because I have an LQ4 that failed in exactly the same way but it was a 100k miles factory original motor. Number 1 main was the worst off by far. This engine lost oil pressure and the original owner report shutting it down as soon as he noticed. Looks like he drove it for a while like that and the #1 main was trashed, #3 was beat up pretty bad, and the rest of the mains/rods/cam bearings were showing copper. It ate the hell out of the saddle and cap on #1 main where it spun the bearing. #3 main spun as well but later in the game. It looks like first to get oil is first to loose oil. Not sure if this helps your analysis at all but hope it does. Good luck
number 3 was actually pretty good.It will be going to the machine shop to mic it out.Problem is this motor maybe had 1000 miles on it this shouldnt happen.Something was missed in the assembly phase period.If machine work is right and its blue printed right and the tune is right a main bearing isnt going to just fail like it did.And as stated before his rod bearings were perfect with zero signs of detonation.So that leaves a machine process problem or a miss-hap on assembly.Sean told me the oil pressure was always good so it wasnt a oil pump failure.
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WTF!..you won't get 100 miles out of improperly set up main bearings...Did Texas speed give you bearing clearnaces..the way all bearings look, they were either tight...or the oil pump shot the wad...or looks like water in the oil.....a tuff fight there...this is why I am glad I can do all my work myself...and even check all clearances myself!
To play in the turbo world you better be ready to spend some money maintaing your **** or do it yourself!
To play in the turbo world you better be ready to spend some money maintaing your **** or do it yourself!
May be trashed. He was making this sound like rods had broken and the thing was completely fucked over early on. Even if the block is trashed you could still salvage a lot of parts out of it. It's not like mine where it blew and everything was trashed.
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WTF!..you won't get 100 miles out of improperly set up main bearings...Did Texas speed give you bearing clearnaces..the way all bearings look, they were either tight...or the oil pump shot the wad...or looks like water in the oil.....a tuff fight there...this is why I am glad I can do all my work myself...and even check all clearances myself!
To play in the turbo world you better be ready to spend some money maintaing your **** or do it yourself!
To play in the turbo world you better be ready to spend some money maintaing your **** or do it yourself!