Forced Induction Superchargers | Turbochargers | Intercoolers

shims in a BOV

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Aug 1, 2007 | 09:15 PM
  #1  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default shims in a BOV

how are they used?i installed the new 1 without putting in any shims/washers and it seems to work fine,what am i missing?
Reply
Old Aug 2, 2007 | 04:22 PM
  #2  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

bump.
Reply
Old Aug 3, 2007 | 07:58 AM
  #3  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

on cars with an airflow meter, you do not want the BOV open at idle etc, as it can **** of the AFM readings, as all the air is no longer passing thru it ( assumes vent to atmos BOV )

So some have adjustment to add more tension, so this scenario doesnt occur.

Some might use shims, others an adjusting screw to add tension.

If yours is working fine, and not leaking under boost....dont worry about it.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:01 AM
  #4  
JAvenger007's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,395
Likes: 0
From: ATL/Savannah Georgia
Default

whats a good way of checking if it leaks under boost? or at idle?
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 05:59 AM
  #5  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

Seal up your entire intake system, and pressurise it manually.


You will also need to apply pressure to the top side of the BOV too during this test, otherwise the BOV will start to leak once spring pressure is overcome.

On mine, this starts to happen at about 5/6psi.

Which perhaps isnt good enough ?? If I had 5psi drop across my IC core/TB, then potentially that BOV could start to leak under boost, if I was feeding the top side from the intake ( correct place )
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:18 AM
  #6  
JAvenger007's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,395
Likes: 0
From: ATL/Savannah Georgia
Default

so the BOV needs to be capped/plugged or does it need to have pressure fed through the top?
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:24 AM
  #7  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
Seal up your entire intake system, and pressurise it manually.


You will also need to apply pressure to the top side of the BOV too during this test, otherwise the BOV will start to leak once spring pressure is overcome.
see above
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:27 AM
  #8  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

i thought the whole point of the source at the top of the BOV was to feed it vacuum so between vacuum pulling the valve up and pressure from the tubing it pushing it open
Reply
LS1 Tech Stories

The Best V8 Stories One Small Block at Time

story-0

Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

 Verdad Gallardo
story-1

6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-2

Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

 Verdad Gallardo
story-3

Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

 Pouria Savadkouei
story-4

Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

 
story-5

Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

 Verdad Gallardo
story-6

Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

 Verdad Gallardo
story-7

Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

 Verdad Gallardo
story-8

10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

 
story-9

10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

 Verdad Gallardo
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 11:41 AM
  #9  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

it does that too...

But if you have say a spring of 10psi in there...once boost rose over 10psi, it would blow the BOV open.

SO boost is applied to the top, so this doesnt happen.

A spring strong enough to stop that happening otherwise, would make it imposible for the vac to pull the BOV open.,
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:01 PM
  #10  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

isnt the goal to see when or if the BOV cracks open at a given PSI?so giving pressure to the BOV source would hold it closed,so u could check for other leaks but not for the BOV itself correct?
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:34 PM
  #11  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

you want to check for leaks on both.

But you also dont want to be running the absolute minimum spring pressure in the BOV that keeps it closed under boost. Keep it shut a,little tighter to be 100% sure it is never open under WOT boost conditions, or even some part throttle boost conditions
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 12:49 PM
  #12  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

i may just throw a couple shims in mine just to be safe for when i go to higher boost
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 02:23 PM
  #13  
JAvenger007's Avatar
TECH Fanatic
iTrader: (9)
 
Joined: Apr 2005
Posts: 1,395
Likes: 0
From: ATL/Savannah Georgia
Default

Originally Posted by ddnspider
isnt the goal to see when or if the BOV cracks open at a given PSI?so giving pressure to the BOV source would hold it closed,so u could check for other leaks but not for the BOV itself correct?
Thats what confused me. So we need to cap one side of the charge piping along with a guage and then pressurize from the other side along with adding pressure to top of the BOV?
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:01 PM
  #14  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

ok heres the way i see it.
to test all your intake piping you cap off and connect a pressure source right off the turbo along with pressurizing the BOV so it stays shut.

to test the BOV let the car run and rev it to redline and let out and have someone see if it opens when u let out.or u can pressurize the system and not give the BOV a pressure source and see when it opens
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:29 PM
  #15  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

Originally Posted by ddnspider
ok heres the way i see it.
to test all your intake piping you cap off and connect a pressure source right off the turbo along with pressurizing the BOV so it stays shut.
Which is what I said.

to test the BOV let the car run and rev it to redline and let out and have someone see if it opens when u let out.or u can pressurize the system and not give the BOV a pressure source and see when it opens
Yes, you can do this under full load on a dyno. Revving it with no load on the engine, would be pointless.
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:32 PM
  #16  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

i wasnt arguing with u i was concurring with what u said.i read on another site that revving it in neutral and then watch the rpm when it comes back down to idle and if it fluctuates for a sec u know the bov opened
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:36 PM
  #17  
stevieturbo's Avatar
9 Second Club
 
Joined: Nov 2003
Posts: 13,616
Likes: 185
From: Norn Iron
Default

Originally Posted by ddnspider
i wasnt arguing with u i was concurring with what u said.i read on another site that revving it in neutral and then watch the rpm when it comes back down to idle and if it fluctuates for a sec u know the bov opened
sorry...

although that last sentence makes no sense to me
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:51 PM
  #18  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

Originally Posted by stevieturbo
sorry...

although that last sentence makes no sense to me
i googled b4 i started this thread.some BOV company said that if u rev the motor up when it comes back down to idle if its not smooth or takes a second to idle regularly then its because the bov opened and vented some air.that didnt make alot of sense to me which is why i started the thread
Reply
Old Aug 4, 2007 | 03:51 PM
  #19  
ddnspider's Avatar
Thread Starter
10 Second Club
20 Year Member
Liked
Loved
Community Favorite
iTrader: (26)
 
Joined: Aug 2004
Posts: 14,628
Likes: 1,778
From: FL
Default

stevie what did u use to cap off and pressure test stuff
Reply




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 07:13 PM.

story-0
Amazing '71 Camaro Restomod Is Modern Muscle Car Under the Skin

Slideshow: This heavily modified 1971 Camaro mixes classic muscle car styling with a fifth-generation Camaro interior and modern LS3 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-05-12 18:06:42


VIEW MORE
story-1
6 Common C5 Corvette Failures and What's Involved In Repairing Them

Slideshow: From wobbling harmonic balancers to failed EBCMs, these are the issues that define long-term C5 ownership and what repairs typically involve.

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-05-07 18:44:57


VIEW MORE
story-2
Retro Modern Bandit Pontiac Trans AM Comes With Burt Reynolds' Autograph

Slideshow: A modern Camaro transformed into a retro icon, this limited-run "Bandit" build blends nostalgia with brute force in a way few revivals manage.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-04-21 13:57:02


VIEW MORE
story-3
Top 10 Greatest Cadillac V Series Performance Models Ever, Ranked

Slideshow: Cadillac didn't just crash the high-performance luxury vehicle party, it showed up loud, supercharged, and occasionally a little unhinged...

By Pouria Savadkouei | 2026-04-16 10:05:15


VIEW MORE
story-4
Top 10 Most Powerful Chevy Trucks Ever Made!

Slideshow: Top ten most powerful Chevy trucks ever made

By | 2026-03-25 09:22:26


VIEW MORE
story-5
Hennessey's New Supercharged Silverado ZR2 Has 700 HP

Slideshow: Hennessey has turned the Silverado ZR2 into a 700-hp off-road monster with supercharged V8 power and a limited production run.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-24 18:57:52


VIEW MORE
story-6
Coachbuilt N2A Anteros Is an LS2-Powered C6 Corvette In Italian Clothes

Slideshow: A one-off sports car that looks like a vintage Italian exotic-but hides a C6 Corvette underneath-just sold for the price of a new mid-engine Corvette.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-23 18:53:41


VIEW MORE
story-7
Awesome K5 Blazer Restomod Comes With C7 Corvette Power

Slideshow: A heavily reworked 1972 K5 Blazer swaps its off-road roots for a low-slung street-focused build with modern V8 power.

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-03-09 18:08:45


VIEW MORE
story-8
10 Camaros You Should Never Buy

Slideshow: There are thousands of used Camaros on the market but we think you should avoid these 10

By | 2026-02-17 17:09:30


VIEW MORE
story-9
10 LS Engine Myths That Refuse to Die

Slideshows: Which one of these myths do you believe?

By Verdad Gallardo | 2026-01-28 18:10:11


VIEW MORE