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Old 08-14-2007 | 02:16 AM
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The APS kit should be showing up today or tomorrow at the customer's house. We will be getting his car this Thursday. The first thing we are going to do is swap camshafts, then we will be installing the APS kit. Bob
Bob, When do you think you will have the twin turbo system installed and tuned and ready for road testing?

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Old 08-14-2007 | 02:50 AM
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Having EPP 20 mins from my house makes me want to get a Camaro!!!
Old 08-14-2007 | 04:23 AM
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Having EPP 20 mins from my house makes me want to get a Camaro!!!
Consider yourself lucky to have EPP so close. These guys are the standard in this industry. Bottom line.
Old 08-14-2007 | 06:52 AM
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Bob, When do you think you will have the twin turbo system installed and tuned and ready for road testing?

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We are getting Tim's car Thursday, and if my guy's want to work Saturday to help get it done quicker, I'm in.

We're changing camshafts, plus we need to add in a larger fuel system, install the methanol injection kit and swap rear-end gears. I'd say, ASAP is all I can give you. We're ready as soon as we get the car! Thanks. Bob
Old 08-22-2007 | 01:06 PM
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The car is at EPP right now and I think they will have it done around the middle of next week. My goals with the car are based on the fact that it is strictly a street car. I really place a emphasis on low-mid power with upper rpm power almost an afterthought. My goal is to maximize the 0-5000 rpm power and have this be a very resposive street monster. The NA build had a XER-220/224/581/110 cam with Tony Mamo worked 205's and ported intake with 4:10 gears. The new setup will have a XER-220/220/581/114 with 2 degrees of advance to maintain as much low end torque and part throttle resposiveness as possible. I'm switching to 3:50 gears and will be running Methanol. I'm hoping to make around 650/650 at the tires and keep boost at 10 or below. The current NA setup made 450/470, so I think these are realistic goals. Peter at APS thought I would make max boost at around 35oo rpms. I also thinking this setup should spool quickly and be a lot of fun on the street.
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Sounds nice! You will have no problem at all reaching your goals I am putting down 600 @ only 9.8 lbs of boost with a little 348 and @ only 5800 rpms. You will probibly hit 700 on 10lbs easily.
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wow man i cant wait to see this thing!!!!
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The car is at EPP right now and I think they will have it done around the middle of next week. My goals with the car are based on the fact that it is strictly a street car. I really place a emphasis on low-mid power with upper rpm power almost an afterthought. My goal is to maximize the 0-5000 rpm power and have this be a very resposive street monster. The NA build had a XER-220/224/581/110 cam with Tony Mamo worked 205's and ported intake with 4:10 gears. The new setup will have a XER-220/220/581/114 with 2 degrees of advance to maintain as much low end torque and part throttle resposiveness as possible. I'm switching to 3:50 gears and will be running Methanol. I'm hoping to make around 650/650 at the tires and keep boost at 10 or below. The current NA setup made 450/470, so I think these are realistic goals. Peter at APS thought I would make max boost at around 35oo rpms. I also thinking this setup should spool quickly and be a lot of fun on the street.
Nice first post, Tim! Welcome aboard! Bob
Old 08-23-2007 | 08:19 AM
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Thanks Bob!

Any chance you might get some pictures of the build up on your website? I'm stoked about the build...Soon to have bouncing baby twins...turbo's that is. Take care,

Tim
Old 08-23-2007 | 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by farrellt
The car is at EPP right now and I think they will have it done around the middle of next week. My goals with the car are based on the fact that it is strictly a street car. I really place a emphasis on low-mid power with upper rpm power almost an afterthought. My goal is to maximize the 0-5000 rpm power and have this be a very resposive street monster. The NA build had a XER-220/224/581/110 cam with Tony Mamo worked 205's and ported intake with 4:10 gears. The new setup will have a XER-220/220/581/114 with 2 degrees of advance to maintain as much low end torque and part throttle resposiveness as possible. I'm switching to 3:50 gears and will be running Methanol. I'm hoping to make around 650/650 at the tires and keep boost at 10 or below. The current NA setup made 450/470, so I think these are realistic goals. Peter at APS thought I would make max boost at around 35oo rpms. I also thinking this setup should spool quickly and be a lot of fun on the street.
That is pretty much the same as my engine
I have a 234/234-598/598 with 116+4 cam
I have 8.25:1 compression
I have AFR 225 heads
I will be interested to see how your engine/APS set up does
I will be geting the APS kit as well
but I am looking for a little more HP
I would like to be at 800+ for now and maybe more later if I get bored with it

I am currently running a Single T67 ( already had it on the stock engine) and it made 552/670 with 8 pounds of boost and god only knows how much back pressure
it will not make and hold more than 8 pounds of boost
it will make 14.5 and it falls off to 8 or so by 5500 RPM

on one pull I had the boost set to kill and it made 717 ftlbs at 3900 RPM and 525 hp at 5300 RPM
Old 08-23-2007 | 05:35 PM
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I talked to the guys at EPP tonight and the turbos, wastegates and intercooler are installed in the car. They indicated that the intercooler just went right in. They just have some of the smaller piping to install. They said the system seems extremely high quality...That was awesome to hear!

Of particular interest...I have a UMI k-member and they were able to get it to work although I believe they had to disconnect it, then install the turbo's and then re-connect it. Hopefully, she well be up and running by the end of next week.

Keep up the good work EPP!

Tim
Old 08-23-2007 | 06:41 PM
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The Umi K-member DOES work, you have to clock the driver compressor a little more, and nudge the passenger one a tad. Other then that its fine. The brake line tabs are over a little more, so you will need to be creative and do a bracket.

This is a very nice setup, and it is going together like a kit should.
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
We are getting Tim's car Thursday, and if my guy's want to work Saturday to help get it done quicker, I'm in.

We're changing camshafts, plus we need to add in a larger fuel system, install the methanol injection kit and swap rear-end gears. I'd say, ASAP is all I can give you. We're ready as soon as we get the car! Thanks. Bob
Thanks for the update Bob, sounds like a really nice F body that you guys are screwing together.

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Originally Posted by Jake@EPP
The Umi K-member DOES work, you have to clock the driver compressor a little more, and nudge the passenger one a tad. Other then that its fine. The brake line tabs are over a little more, so you will need to be creative and do a bracket.

This is a very nice setup, and it is going together like a kit should.
Jake, Thanks for the heads on the UMI K member, that is very good news and update us all on the install when you get some spare time.

Peter
Old 08-23-2007 | 07:33 PM
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Jake, Thanks for the heads on the UMI K member, that is very good news and update us all on the install when you get some spare time.

Peter
Will do,

I decided to install the APS first so the fuel system and Alky-control kit will be out of the way.

Hats off to peter for a nice kit
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I will be adding pictures to our website tomorrow on Tim's Firehawk. Thanks! Bob
Old 08-26-2007 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Exotic Performance Plus
I will be adding pictures to our website tomorrow on Tim's Firehawk. Thanks! Bob
Looking forward to seeing your post Bob.

Peter
Old 08-31-2007 | 10:50 AM
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I talked to Jake last night and pretty much everything is done except changing the gears from 4:10 to 3:50. The turbo system, methanol kit, fuels system upgrade, gauges, battery relocation (to work with the alkycontrol kit) and the exhaust is pretty much complete. I believe Jake thought they might start it today. Hoping to have it ready for pickup by mid next week. There are some pictures of the build on the exoticperformanceplus.com website under project cars and I believe Jake was going to be taking quite a few more and updating it shortly.

Thanks Jake, Bob, and Brent
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just saw the pictures of the install...lookin good...cant wait to hear the power numbers...goodluck.
great job EPP.
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Originally Posted by Jake@EPP
Will do,

I decided to install the APS first so the fuel system and Alky-control kit will be out of the way.

Hats off to peter for a nice kit
Can you give me some more info on what you did with the Alky Control kit? (maybe pics ) I have the same kit. I've already done the battery relocation, and got the other tank from Alky Control that mounts in place of the battery. Did you have to fabricate any kind of bracket to mount the tank? Or just screw it to the rad support? Where did you mount the pump? It looks pretty tight on the passenger side, not much room because of all the coolant lines & the water pump. Did you need to get a longer line to go from the tank to the pump? Any problems?

Thanks,

Craig


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