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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:03 AM
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Lot of tracks these days wont let people run antifreeze or water wetter in 9.90 or faster cars anyhow. I wouldnt run anything but water in a race car, antifreeze is some pretty slick stuff. If you get over 212 on a pass in a drag car something is wrong. I seldom see over 200 even on 95 degree days at the track after back to back 1/4 mile passes.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:07 AM
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Gotcha KP. But Harlan has said that turbo cars need to have some heat in them, so maybe a turbo car will run a lot hotter than a blower car?
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 10:27 AM
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Thats exhaust heat I would assume, in general its good to get the oil temp up on any engine before making passes but leaving the line over 200 is probably a little hot and thats the only way I could see going above 212. I would think 170-180 water temp is around the best place to be on the line with any setup.
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Old Sep 6, 2007 | 03:14 PM
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Originally Posted by gnx7
Evans NPG coolant runs at zero pressure. The liquid is more viscuous and pulls heat out from the heads/block better than other coolants.
From evans site:
"Use of a 7 lb. cap on “waterless” system is recommended for racing, street rod and performance enhanced vehicles. For applications where 7 lb. cap is not available, standard cap may be used. All stock – factory original computer controlled daily driven vehicles are coolant change only – no system changes are required."

they go on to recommend a 0 or 7psi cap on coolant overflow tanks.

but the basic point is correct, that evans is not as prone to cavitation, vaporization and has a lower surface tension so you're less likely to have hot spots, which all adds up to not needing the same pressure in the system that normal coolants need.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 12:47 AM
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Evans NPG coolant runs at zero pressure. The liquid is more viscuous and pulls heat out from the heads/block better than other coolants.
but the basic point is correct, that evans is not as prone to cavitation, vaporization and has a lower surface tension so you're less likely to have hot spots, which all adds up to not needing the same pressure in the system that normal coolants need.
I am running this Evans NPG waterless coolant on my T-trim 383 mostly for the 2nd set of points. I don't believe it 'pulls heat out' better than straight water. I run no thermostat and a 7lb. cap, but am thinking of adding in a thermostat as I get low temps on the highway, in the 150 range, which I think is too low. Never hits >206 even after idling for 20 minutes in gear after a couple hard WOT runs.

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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 07:46 PM
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I'm runnin evans coolant and one of their pumps with a 7psi cap, and a 160* stat. As KP stated this coolant may not be allowed on a track.
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 08:45 PM
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alot of racers i know run there puke tank in the rear behind the rear tires and a 10 pound cap with a #6 line
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:27 PM
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im assuming the reason behind this is less parasitic drain on the motor correct?? Since the water pump isnt pushing water thru a pressurized system??..You could just run an electric water pump and get the same benefits...
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 09:49 PM
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cylinder presure in the cooling system is the reason
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Old Sep 8, 2007 | 10:09 PM
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Originally Posted by ls3rdgen
cylinder presure in the cooling system is the reason
What?? Thats the dumbest thing i've ever heard
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